OMFG, funniest shit...
lol
You actually made Fatlip a fish lol...
omg I love these forums, I'm never leaving,
you'll just have to run me over with a digital steam roller to get me outa here.
That was a grrrrreat pic.. hehe
Posted 06 July 2007 - 10:04 AM
I don't think its a bad choice for a single tbh, like what somebody said I think it would appeal to peeps who wouldn't normally listen to the Chems. I agree with it being a good 'novelty record' as well (as long as its not compared by the media to the likes of Hey Baby and other novelty stuff).
Posted 06 July 2007 - 6:26 PM
I would prefer All Rights Reversed as a single, but we may eventually get that as well. However, I don't think The Salmon Dance is a terrible choice for a single. With the right marketing and video, it has potential to be a huge crossover hit, especially in America.
I understand that a lot of us don't want the Chems to be associated with a novelty track, and many don't care if the Chems are never played anywhere but in their own small part of the world. I think this loses sight of why singles are actually released: to get airplay and to gain new fans.
Who cares what casual listeners or n00bs think of the Chemical Brothers, as long as the Tom & Ed are making money and remaining happy in doing what they do for the hardcore fans? So what if the track caught on? Would it really be that horrible if in five years everyone was doing The Salmon Dance at weddings instead of The Electric Slide or Macarena? At least it would be OUR music.
Besides, The Salmon Dance is actually a pretty good track. It's catchy, artistically clever and trippy all at the same time. Most importantly, it's different, and that's something that the music industry really does need: something different.
I'm gonna wait for an official announcement. Maybe we'll get The Salmon Dance, maybe we'll get All Rights Reversed, or maybe we'll even get something unexpected. The album isn't even officially out in the U.S. yet, so it seems like wasted energy to get upset over a future single at this point. No matter what, we have a kick ass new album and we know we're gonna get a few more b-sides and remixes. Some of you even get to see some incredible live shows.
In return, the Chems may get some new fans based on the release of their next single, no matter which one it is. We all win.
Who's hungry?
Posted 06 July 2007 - 6:47 PM
After initial reservations, i really like TSD now, its earnt its place on the album. I think maybe its being released as a surprise factor and they are hoping people will like it after hearing it and be shocked at who has made it. I reckon the video will be excellent, maybe there will be a remix by some top notch hip hop dude (Dangermouse maybe?)
Posted 07 July 2007 - 7:32 AM
The point of releasing singles is to putout a radio-friendly synopsis of the best points of the album as a whole in order to attract people who like it, draw them into buying the the album and ultimately becoming fans of the band. If you had to pick one track LEAST representative of WATN as a whole, we all know that TSD would definitely be it. Because of that, if it gets a release, those buy WATN on the pretext of liking the salmon dance will find that *gasp* nothing else on the album sounds like it at all. On the other hand, the people slightly intrigued by the chemical brothers' electronic/psychadelic appeal could easily rule them out hearing The Salmon Dance. So it's basically trading smart fans who'd love WATN for dumb ones who wouldn't understand it. I know that's a rash exaggeration, but that's essentially what it amounts to.
Posted 07 July 2007 - 7:52 AM
You bring up some interesting points, voodoo. I think the Chems went into this knowing the Salmon Dance was going to be... erm... perhaps the hardest track to swallow. But they also stand by why Salmon Dance can coexist with the other (more serious) tracks on We Are The Night. At least from what I gathered of those those myspace interviews kwiddle posted.
Regardless of the speculation, I think it will be interesting to see the reaction and response a single like this would get (if indeed The Salmon Dance is the next single).
One other thing I was thinking of. I bet there will be a nice little Parental Advisory smack dab on the front corner of the single. At least if it's a US release. (wonder if the advisory sticker will be on We Are The Night in the US, come to think of it) Would that mean there would be a clean kiddie version of Salmon Dance too?
So many questions - and there's been no official word so far on what the next single is actually going to be.
Posted 07 July 2007 - 8:59 AM
This is going to suck.
I'd rather see harpoons as a single, than the salmon dance.
Any fans that the Chems have garnered from Galvanize will go FAR FAR away. *sigh*
oh well. I still love ya Tom and Ed. I hope you invested your cash wisely.
Posted 07 July 2007 - 1:10 PM
So what if its the single y'all are still gonna buy it even if its just for the other tracks. And if a few people buy it as their first chems single, buy the album and become fans then its job done as far as i am concerned. Plus, could it possibly be to get more hip hop orientated people interested? Could be to do with helping promote fatlip? I dunno. I dont think that people who liked galvanize will do one cos of TSD, it will just show them that there is a lot more to Tom and Ed's game
Posted 07 July 2007 - 1:15 PM
I disagree with voodoo... TSD really sounds like a chems track, and I think it's the perfect track to be a single. It's catchy and the goal of a single is not to satisfy hardcore fans, it's to get known from the average joe who only have heard about the chems but doesn't know their music...
Posted 07 July 2007 - 6:43 PM
No offense Voodoo, but it's quite elitist to assume that nobody will embrace an album except established fans.
Block Rockin' Beats was not exactly representative of the rest of Dig Your Own Hole, and look how many loyal fans that brought in.
Besides, it doesn't matter what single is actually released next. Everyone here is going to buy it. Why not release something that just may appeal to the masses and increase figures as well? Like it or not, TSD is the track that is most likely to get international airplay.
Anyone who is "slightly intrigued by the chemical brothers' electronic/psychadelic appeal" and would jump ship because of the choice of a single probably isn't buying the album anyway.
Posted 07 July 2007 - 9:17 PM
No offense Voodoo, but it's quite elitist to assume that nobody will embrace an album except established fans.
Whether you mean or not, you supply a fair amount by not reading properly. Where on earth did I say anything resembling what you assert in that sentence? Look carefully, it's not there.
What I'm saying is that the people you want to market psychadelic music to are the people who are slightly interested it in the first place, not people who buy an album hoping they'll hear stuff similar to what sammy the salmon has to teach only to find that there's nothing at all like it.
@Ben_j No, it doesn't sound like a chem's track. Look back on every single track the chem's have ever released, not just WATN, but every single track. How many of them have been either: a. a joke, b. a novelty track, c. a parody novelty track, d. used the word "nigga", e. made references to crack, f. featured a talking animal, g. taught you facts about salmon. It's nothing like normal chem's music and that's pretty hard to deny.
Putting out any single says to the world: "Buy our album because it sounds like x"
Sorry, but the salmon dance sounds nothing like the rest of WATN.
Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:01 PM
Voodoo - Perhaps I did misunderstand what you were trying to convey.
On the other hand, you did say:
"So it's basically trading smart fans who'd love WATN for dumb ones who wouldn't understand it."
I still think these exact words hold quite a generalization and I'm not willing to subscribe to such a blanket statement. We simply have different thoughts on the matter.
I do understand and respect your opinions about releasing singles, but I can think of a lot of ChemBros singles that don't fall under the notion of, "Buy our album because it sounds like x":
Block Rockin' Beats
The Golden Path
Believe
The Boxer
Do It Again
That's not even counting The Test since it technically was not its own single. I'm not implying that every one of these were great choices, but I wouldn't say any of them are particularly representative of their associated albums, either.
Again, my goal is for the Chems to gain as much airplay and sales as they can. Hopefully they will also gain some new, permanent fans along the way. TSD is not my personal first choice for a new single, but I also don't think it is a bad choice.
Posted 07 July 2007 - 11:06 PM
Yeah so ture satur8. I definitely agree.
I love that you say "My goal is for the Chems to gain as much airplay and sales as they can."
Are you a street team member? I've been a uber permanent fan since 1995 at least. :) I have also got a few people ready here in the US to go to Target the 17th and buy W.A.T.N, I've pretty much been a stand alone street team member for years now. If someone could hook me up with a registration form for that, I'd be uber-excited.
Personaly I've said it before, but I think Burst Generator and Modern Midnight Conversation have the best chance of being singles...
I'd laugh if Salmon Dance was a single...
By the way, anyone ever heard the Chems song, Enjoyed??? That song is a good example of how they can sound like the old, and bring in the new, better than any stupid "Band" you've ever listened to.
Enjoyed has a ton of elements of the song Out Of Control. At the same time, Its very new, and diffrent.
Anyone understand?
~ENDERS