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Turnmills NYE: who's going?
#128
Posted 05 December 2005 - 10:18 PM
#130
Posted 05 December 2005 - 11:47 PM
but then having said thast they usually speak english anyway, so its kind of a wasted effort :P
#131
Posted 06 December 2005 - 12:05 AM
Don't get me wrong, I don't have any problem with foreign people coming here for a holiday, but some didn't seem to know their limitations when it came to speaking English. :?
#132
Posted 06 December 2005 - 2:58 AM
Ben_j Escribi�:
French sucks at foreign languages... We have one of the most weired language on the planet and we can't even learn english, which is pretty easy :-/
*shrugs* I found French rather easy to learn. Perhaps it is difficult to master, but it didn't seem difficult at all to learn. I've nearly completely forgotten to speak the language over the past 5 years, but I could read books and write essays competently at a high school level in the language.
Quebecois French is messed up, though. Very bastardized form of the language. Like American English, I guess.
#134
Posted 06 December 2005 - 3:12 AM
Ben_j Escribi�:
French sucks at foreign languages... We have one of the most weired language on the planet and we can't even learn english, which is pretty easy :-/
I took French for a few years in middle and high school. For a year I had one teacher, this guy with a hick backwoods coutry accent so imagine this: "Parlay voo Fran-say" what a joke! Later on I had a teacher who was actually from Paris. I learned a lot and because my teacher was actually French, she really emphasized how to speak using the proper accent (or as close as an American can get to the proper accent.)
I found the basics of the language easy to grasp. My big problem with it wasn't so much the language itself, but I wasn't in the proper environment to retain all that I learned.
But don't feel bad about not knowing another language too well. Here in the States it's not common at all to be fluent in other languages - it's just not emphasized. Unless of course you live with family that speaks nothing but their native tongue inside the home.
#135
Posted 06 December 2005 - 3:15 AM
whirlygirl Escribi�:
I found the basics of the language easy to grasp. My big problem with it wasn't so much the language itself, but I wasn't in the proper environment to retain all that I learned.
That's precisely it. I now hang out with a fair number of French-speakers (and former French-speakers), but I'd already lost the ability to speak French before I met them.
But don't feel bad about not knowing another language too well. Here in the States it's not common at all to be fluent in other languages - it's just not emphasized. Unless of course you live with family that speaks nothing but their native tongue inside the home.
I heard a lot of Spanish while down there. More Spanish than I hear French up here (which is one of our official languages).
#136
Posted 06 December 2005 - 3:23 AM
You get a lot of people who can speak it since a young age but because the focus is on learning and comprehending English, a lot of people who can speak Spanish can't write it. I knew a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation Latinos who couldn't even speak it except for a few words just to get by.
As for foreign languages as a whole, it's just not emphasized in school, especially elementary schools where children at a young age are more receptive to learning it. It wasn't until middle school where we were given the option of either taking French or Spanish.
I was looking into a private school for my son (just for shits and giggles, not like we could afford it) and the one I wanted him to go to taught either Spanish, German or French. But that was private school.
I actually wish I'd taken Spanish instead to be honest. I'd have gotten a lot more use out of it outside of school.
#137
Posted 06 December 2005 - 3:28 AM
We finally got our first Spanish school a couple of weeks ago.
English is by far the dominant language in Winnipeg, but French will serve you well in certain parts of town, incl. where I live.
In other parts of Canada, Japanese and Chinese are definetly the unofficial second languages of British Columbia and French is the dominant language in Quebec (and not far from in New Brunswick). Indigenous native languages are common up north.
#139
Posted 06 December 2005 - 10:04 AM
Jeanie Escribi�:
And Chris and yourself !! But i agree - many parisians ( I say parisians cause i dunno bout the rest of France ) don't speak English or simply dont care.
French people (the previous generation (my parents)) and older do not care about foreign stuffs....) i mean their parents always told them that France is really nice to live, lovely, our solidarity care system is (was) one of the best of the world......so that s why they did not have many interests learning foreign languages..... but this is changing..... and more and more french teenagers and young adults are used to speak few words of one or two others languages.....
Jeanie Escribi�:
But no worries Dini , that was just an inside joke ;)
No worries Jeanie, that was just a bit frustrating to not understand inside jokes!! while speaking about that, what "stash's line" means????
#140
Posted 06 December 2005 - 10:18 AM
mippio Escribi�:
i dont speak anything except english :( i fell so ignorant when i go abroad sometimes, i end up speaking very loudly and pointing in the hope that they will understand more.
but then having said thast they usually speak english anyway, so its kind of a wasted effort :P
Precisely, old chap. All these foreigners understand English, they're just too lazy to speak it unless you shout very loudly. Flapping your arms a lot helps too.
Taking your brain to another dimension!