OK I admit it, I'm a bit of chems obbessive and dedicated viynl junkie so you'll have to forgive the following enquiry!
I've already put this on the message board once with little success, so here it is again. On Tom and Ed's mix album 'Brothers gonna work it out', there's a fat track which samples metro LA 'to a nation rockin', Freestyle 'Don't stop the rock' and Carlos Berrios. Has this track ever made it vinyl, albeit in promo form, or am I doomed with the reality that I'll never be able to obtain it by any means necessary? Please help!
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 2:05 PM
Are you sure it's a vinyl copy? They might just redo the mix live, it's a mix they know works. The reason I say that is that it sounded slightly different at the new year when they played on Radio 1
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Posted 12 December 2002 - 3:01 AM
i am sure it's on vinyl or a dub plate, if you here them drop it live it will sould exactly the same as on anti nazi mix or BGWIO. its a bootleg they made. Carlos Berrios is the base line at the begining before the beat comes in. Freestyle 'Don't stop the rock' is the vocal hook that is looped up and LA 'to a nation rockin' is just another short loop. i made my own copy using the orignal tracks in acid pro.
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Posted 13 December 2002 - 2:01 AM
stolen from www.moremusic.co.uk
What is an acetate
An acetate is a transitional stage between the master tape and the finished vinyl record
Originally acetates were used for home recording in the days before tape recorders. A machine actually cuts the grooves into the acetate like a lathe. This can be computerised, or done manually by the engineer.
The acetate is used to assess whether the music has been successfully transferred to disc. It is checked by the sound engineer. There may be only one copy made of a particular recording, sometimes more are cut and sent to the studio and band members for approval.
The acetate comes before making the master, and allows the sound to be checked without great expense. Sometimes DJs and remixers will get acetates cut in order to have an exclusive mix to play out!
It is unusual for more than a dozen to be manufactured, so from the collector's point of view an acetate is a rare find indeed! If the recording is rejected the acetate may be the only record that survives. The rejected cut may simply be poor quality, however the artist may have opted to use a different take of the song, if so, the acetate becomes much more precious.
Spotting one!
An acetate looks like a vinyl record, but it is actually a metal plate covered in a layer of acetone.
Spotting an acetate, Look for the following:
Usually 1 sided, with no grooves on the reverse
Heavy!
Will ring with a metallic sound when tapped
Has a second, off-centre hole near the middle.
Labels are typed or handwritten
The "CD Acetate"
When mastering to CD the Recordable CD or CDR is used in a similar way to acetates, with the sound being checked from a CDR.
In the early days of the CD some dealers sold these CDRs for very high prices and referred to then as "CD Acetates". The CDs used genuinely in studio or pressing plant are just as rare as acetates, however the growing availability CD Recorders has made them very easy to duplicate of forge.
CDRs have also become so cheap that they are often used instead of promos, with hundreds being manufactured and distributed.
The term CD Acetate has not survived
What is an acetate
An acetate is a transitional stage between the master tape and the finished vinyl record
Originally acetates were used for home recording in the days before tape recorders. A machine actually cuts the grooves into the acetate like a lathe. This can be computerised, or done manually by the engineer.
The acetate is used to assess whether the music has been successfully transferred to disc. It is checked by the sound engineer. There may be only one copy made of a particular recording, sometimes more are cut and sent to the studio and band members for approval.
The acetate comes before making the master, and allows the sound to be checked without great expense. Sometimes DJs and remixers will get acetates cut in order to have an exclusive mix to play out!
It is unusual for more than a dozen to be manufactured, so from the collector's point of view an acetate is a rare find indeed! If the recording is rejected the acetate may be the only record that survives. The rejected cut may simply be poor quality, however the artist may have opted to use a different take of the song, if so, the acetate becomes much more precious.
Spotting one!
An acetate looks like a vinyl record, but it is actually a metal plate covered in a layer of acetone.
Spotting an acetate, Look for the following:
Usually 1 sided, with no grooves on the reverse
Heavy!
Will ring with a metallic sound when tapped
Has a second, off-centre hole near the middle.
Labels are typed or handwritten
The "CD Acetate"
When mastering to CD the Recordable CD or CDR is used in a similar way to acetates, with the sound being checked from a CDR.
In the early days of the CD some dealers sold these CDRs for very high prices and referred to then as "CD Acetates". The CDs used genuinely in studio or pressing plant are just as rare as acetates, however the growing availability CD Recorders has made them very easy to duplicate of forge.
CDRs have also become so cheap that they are often used instead of promos, with hundreds being manufactured and distributed.
The term CD Acetate has not survived
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