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Posted 11 August 2007 - 1:33 PM

i just heard the sad new that tony wilson has died from cancer. what an amazing man the world has lost today, he brought us new order, the happy mondays, the hacienda and the quality tv game show remote control! just very sad news


taken from bbc news:


Tony Wilson, the music mogul who has died at 57, leaves behind an enormous musical legacy.


He played an integral role in establishing Manchester as a cultural centre, signing bands such as New Order, whose distinctive sound turned them into a global success.


The Factory label and the Hacienda nightclub were two of his best-known projects.


However, he was also recognised for his talent-spotting ability and his foresight in predicting the popularity of downloaded music.


Here are five ways that Wilson changed the music industry.


BRINGING PUNK TO THE MAINSTREAM

Wilson, who had been working as a reporter at Granada TV, gave the Sex Pistols their television debut in 1976.


He had seen the punk pioneers' legendary gig at the Manchester Lesser Free Trade Hall that June.


And he booked them for the second series of his Granada music programme So It Goes.


The audience also included future stars such as Morrissey, Mark E Smith and Mick Hucknall, who were inspired by the event to form their own bands.


Only about 40 people were in the crowd, according to author David Nolan, who wrote a book hailing the concert The Gig that Changed the World.


"What those Mancunians did was astonishing," he told the BBC last year.


"They sent club culture around the world; they sent the independent record scene around the world; they took a style of music around the world."


SETTING UP FACTORY RECORDS

Joy Division, New Order and Electronic were among the acts on the roster at Manchester's Factory Records.


It has often been said that Wilson wrote contracts in his own blood, saying the artists owned everything and the label owned nothing.


Whether this story was true or not, the principle certainly was.


It was a powerful and revolutionary statement of creative freedom - but it was also financial suicide.


Albums were overdue and over-budget when they were delivered.


New Order's Blue Monday became the biggest-selling 12" single in UK history.


But Factory lost money on every copy sold because of the intricate die-cut design of its sleeve, which looked like a floppy disc.


Wilson also claimed that Factory was on the verge of signing Oasis and Pulp before it went bankrupt in 1992.


ESTABLISHING THE HACIENDA NIGHTCLUB

Rob Gretton, who was the manager of Joy Division and New Order, decided there should be a venue that played the kind of music he liked to hear.


The Hacienda was funded by New Order and Factory Records, and as well as being a magnet for clubbers, it also hosted gigs - such as Madonna's first UK appearance.


"The Hacienda changed Manchester forever," said Vaughan Allen, chief executive of the city's Urbis centre, which is currently hosting an exhibition about the club.


"It did 25 years ago what MySpace does today, bringing together creative people to create something new," he told the BBC last month.


The venue was officially opened by risque comedian Bernard Manning.


He departed quickly, however - some accounts say he left his fee behind because he was so unimpressed by the sound system, while others claim it was owing to the fact that his act went down badly with the crowd.


RUNNING THE "IN THE CITY" CONFERENCE

Set up in 1992, it is the UK's largest and most influential forum for finding new talent and discussing the future of the industry.


It allows the music industry to run the rule over the cream of the UK's new and unsigned bands.


And it has helped launch the careers of almost every major British act of the last 15 years.


Oasis, Radiohead and Suede played at the first In the City.


Muse and Coldplay appeared in 1998; Snow Patrol performed in 2000; and The Arctic Monkeys put in an appearance five years later.


Wilson was renowned as "one of the great spotters of music talent", said Alan McGee, who founded Creation - the home of Oasis and Primal Scream.


"He was a complete inspiration," McGee told the NME website following Wilson's death.


PIONEERING LEGAL MUSIC DOWNLOADS

Wilson was one of the first people to realise the full implications of the illegal downloading revolution that Napster ushered in at the turn of the millennium, and to turn it into an opportunity.


Back in 1999 - four years before iTunes was launched - Wilson was preparing a site called Music33, which sold tracks from local labels for 33p each.


He said the 33p price-tag was based on an honest assessment of the costs of digital delivery.


However, the site failed to take off and the cost of digital music was set much higher by the major players in the coming years.



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Posted 11 August 2007 - 1:59 PM

terrible news.


theres goes another legend.




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 2:51 PM

Didn't know much about him tbh but given all the things he did for the industry its a very sad loss - RIP.




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 3:08 PM

Well thats too bad. Another huge lose to the music world.



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Posted 11 August 2007 - 4:50 PM

Oh man, that sucks...


Gonna go watch 24 Hour Party People on shrooms to mourn.




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 4:57 PM

Oh man, oh man oh man. How very sad...


57 is not old.




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 7:15 PM

24 hour party people is a must tonight....bring out the bong




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 7:53 PM

i was thinking about putting the dvd on too.


its very hard to imagine what music would be like today without tony's influence. i mean if tom and ed had not have their weekly slice of clubbing at the hacienda i dont think we'd have the chemical brothers.


i been very aware of tony since the start of the 90's when i was a happy mondays fanatic as well as a new order fan. i loved factory records i read the nme and lived through what became 24 hour party people.


another good guy lost to cancer



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Posted 11 August 2007 - 8:02 PM

Yeah I was meaning to watch 24 Hour too, no shrooms but mourning for sure. This guy was a real visionary and really pieced together some magnificent stuff




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 8:14 PM

Amen, sneakerbeater.




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 8:16 PM

really terrible news, think time to play 24 hr party people again




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 8:25 PM

I've not been a huge fan of 24 Hour Party People - I didn't dislike the film, there were great parts to it but felt it could have been better. I will watch again with a different perspective knowing the world has lost the man behind it all.


Just out of curiosity does anyone know of any other documentary type films outlining the Manchester days?




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 8:55 PM

terrible, terrible, news



View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 8:56 PM

btw, he introduced the Happy Mondays at Coachella this year...



View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 9:08 PM

manchester documentry


part 1


http://video.google....368688044958751


part 3

http://video.google....957230040128042


cant find part 2 though



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Posted 11 August 2007 - 9:16 PM

Felt a wave of sadness when I heard last night. Another one of the good guys that was in it for the right reasons. RIP AHW.




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Posted 11 August 2007 - 9:21 PM

Thanks so much, sneaker!




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Posted 12 August 2007 - 7:44 AM

i'm in shock! sad news. :( rip.




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Posted 12 August 2007 - 1:31 PM

I saw this on BBC world yesterday... he's only middle age so its quiet sad. I did have this sudden urge the other night to watch 24 hour party people. Strange... Has anyone seen Control yet... its more about Ian Curtis but I guess it has a Manchester theme to it.



its a little early but thanks anyway

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 12:15 AM

I'm still gutted about this. I met Tony Wilson several times and I always liked him and appreciated what he had done for Manchester and music even when most Mancunians called him "wanker" and "twat" as they passed him in the street.


Remember that Tony Wilson brought us New Order, who brought out Blue Monday, arguably the first house record. The profits from Blue Monday were invested in the Hacienda.


The Hacienda inspired Justin Robertson, a contemporary of mine at Manchester Uni, to take up DJ-ing. He in turn inspired Tom and Ed, so I hope everyone on this forum appreciates how much Tony Wilson has done for them.



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