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#181 chemicalreaction   User is offline

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Posted 13 May 2004 - 4:20 AM

very beautiful music soudertow. i finally got around to listening it. like all the synths

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Posted 13 May 2004 - 7:42 PM

http://www.djellisd....rrows%20mix.mp3



check it out... you can hear my other music on my webpage... http://www.djellisd.com



please leave comments on my guestbook located on teh apge also as im goin on vacation today and wont be able to read your posts here

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 12:03 AM

the links should work now. i guess the server was down or something.

anyways



Reaction - Afrika http://www.mp3.com.a...ck.asp?id=78651

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Posted 17 May 2004 - 9:58 PM

Some comments ...



Afrika:



Pretty straightforward. I think you had "this is going to be house" a little too fixed in your head. Could have been better with a bit more liberal attitude, now it's more like for a certain 'house' target audience. But apart from that, it's by your standard which I think means a nice flow and loony sounds. What is the point behind those rock cutoffs?



Playground For A Wedgeless Firm (extended remix):



Dunno if this is an old track or new, but here goes. This one is very good! Some familiarity with the original but a whole different take. I'd say everything works in this one. I specially like the kick from the start, great sound for the buildup. Reversed samples are nice. The rhythm works very well and variation keeps things interesting! If you can make stuff like this without resorting to the chems, then I'm even more impressed! :D

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Posted 18 May 2004 - 5:01 AM

Thank you very much for those comments. I am completely happy with Afrika now that i hear it again after many days. I guess when you make a sound it appears to be good but later you're like eh whatever. :? Those rock cutoffs are result of some crappy mixing :? :? I don't like editing stuff like that. Sometimes i just go with incomplete tracks. and the playground remix is new and i have been working on more stuff like that but that's really hard to get every god damn thing right...requires lot of patience and sometimes i just loose and go with the tried formula(hence all my tracks sound the same :-// ) working on Blue monday (extended remix) now....sounds wicked.

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Posted 23 May 2004 - 1:26 PM

Finally, got my first track online. Not typical, but the first mastered one anyway.



http://music.downloa...6.html?tag=list



Go have a listen!

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Posted 25 May 2004 - 6:33 PM

"...but it's not as important as enjoying you're own music, for me..." - Neon disease



so true

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Posted 26 May 2004 - 4:19 AM

Some great tracks in this thread. 8)



I got runner-up in a remix comp with this track:



http://www.abc.net.a..._Underwater.mp3 6mb 192kbs mp3 4m16secs



I have heaps of other stuff I've started but never finished. Prob post some more later when I sought them out.

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 7:03 PM

Ok, I'm trying to master my next track for release, and need some technical hints. When I look at the waveform, you can clearly see where new parts come in and leave, it looks really unprofessional. So I go to compress it.



Dilemma: Do I (a) Over-compress it, so the compression is audible but the levels stay more or less the same throughout, or (b) Compress it less heavily but leave variation in levels when new parts come in?

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 8:07 PM

I've meant to say something about your previous song chemicalfan, but I have been too lazy to actually do it I guess. Here goes.

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Neon Disease



A little on the boring side, being so long and everything. Supposingly you have created something of a background music. It's not very exciting as such, but it really does create its own environment. I like the dark sweep sound.

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I'm not sure about your mastering issue. You say your song's waveform looks unprofessional? Looks?



Is your problem that when you throw in a new part the sound level increases? I don't think compression is a very good solution. You will end up flatting the whole track. Maybe some careful mixing can solve it, or maybe you could use a limiter (well, compression again). I don't really know what is the best way of doing it, I use a simple limiter and I try to mix the tracks so that there is as little need for compression as possible. I hope I made even some sense here. :)

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 1:13 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by mixing. My problem is that when a new part comes in, the sound level increases, but that's always going to be the case (2 instruments are louder than 1). I think I'll use soft compression, where the compression is transparent in sound (doesn't add colour), but the overall level of the song changes throughout.

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 8:16 PM

2k was Dark and Long...i think that sums it all up. ;-)

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 8:52 PM

Sorry, I was talking about 2k too, but cunningly confused the artist and the song. :-//



You can mix the tracks together so that when the second part starts, you turn the volume of the first part down a bit. I think this is usually done by the sequencer/tracker somewhat automagically. If not, then compression might be the trick ... I'm just not so sure that there is a possibility of colorless compression. Any compression flattens the dynamic range, it's more like a question of how much.



Looking forward to the next one! (you are going to throw us a link, yes?)

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 9:41 PM

Thanks for the comments guys!

Cheers for the advice soundertow, unfortunatly my sequencer doesn't allow me to do that (only got ACID 2, not the pro one). I may think about investing in a new version of ACID, I really like the way you can use blocks of sound, almost like a sampler. That said, it is a bit restrictive. Actually, it's not, I'm just lazy.



I gave up with worrying about what it looks like and trusted my ears eventually, it sounds good and I've uploaded my new track. Just waiting for music.download.com to finish messing around with it. Took them 3 weeks with the first one, I hope it'll be quicker this time.



I'll post a link when it's up!

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 12:13 AM

I told you I'd let you know when my next track was online, and it is now. 'On the rocks', at http://music.downloa...6.html?tag=list



The more I listen to it, the less proud of it I am, it's making me re-think the way I produce tracks.

It's annoying, I'm proud of my synth programming ability, and my beats, but I'm majorly let down by melodies and diversity within a song.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 11:09 PM

On the Rocks.....you track reminds me of my earlier songs. I would like to say couple of things. There are loads of interesting stuff happeing but it's not put toghther well. You have a way with those synths and i like it..you just need to work a little bit more in mixing them all toghther nicely.

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 1:37 AM

Cheers chemicalreaction, like I said, it doesn't seem perfect to me, but I can never find a way to alter it. I never had a clear idea of the song when I was writing it, I just sort of got one part down, then found the next sound, then the next. It led to a bit of a disjointed track, I'm thinking of changing my sequencer actually, coz even though ACID is really easy to use, it's hard to make tracks that flow really easily. Well, I guess all sequencers are the same, I just have to spend more time sequencing and getting parts to overlap. I think that's my current problem - it's not continuous, it's like seperate parts played in order. Maybe it's a practise thing, I dunno. I guess the fact that I'm consciously aware of it is a start, means I can work to improve it for next time.

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 10:50 PM

I second everything chemicalreaction said. (Actually, not everything. My earlier songs remind of stupid tongue-in-the-wrong-cheek tracker madness tracks with borrowed samples, which they, incidentally, were.)



Some samples seem to cut off very abruptly (like to a wall). I'd focus on getting them to fade out nicely. If you can mess with the ADSR of your instrument or sample or whatever you can maybe correct this with setting release a bit longer. Then there is the mixing issue, I'm not sure but you might be using too much (or too broad) compression.



I have used a cheap little method of getting different parts to flow well. You just compose every new part on top of everything else, if all of your parts flow well together, you can combine them differently throughout the whole song. And you can also make your track build easily by putting more and more parts on while the song progresses. (this is not very good advice really, this can lead to songs without any edge, but it's easy, and fun!)

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Posted 08 June 2004 - 6:10 PM

^ THAT'S what i wanted to say. exactly. and yes that is a very good advice :)

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:11 PM

Spamreaction is back with ..well....spam....yeaaaa!!!!!!!......same old same old http://www.mp3.com.a...ck.asp?id=79825

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