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interesting read - ironically from on of the google-founders...

http://www.guardian....eat-google-brin

Yes, it's all going Pete Tong. They are planning to pass a law in the UK which allows the government to legally snoop through our private communications (text, emails, Internet activity) for our protection. They claim they will stop the terrorists this way, by invading everybodies privacy. It's unbelieveable that even the idea could be brought up by the government, yet it is so believable because this stuff has already been written about hasn't it.

I think this is going to push people underground, and you do not want to push people underground on the Internet believe me, it's very very dark and twisted. Terrorists are always one step ahead, they will outsmart this, but we all know it's not purely about the terrorists, it's about control. Having access to everything we do and making us believe that we need the government to do this is all about control over us. UNLIMITED POWER!

They assure us that our private information will be treated with the utmost respect, but we all know that just isn't true. All data is accessable and can be used by the wrong kinds of people, and it will. It is naive to think otherwise.

I'm pretty sure the world will end up in some sort of mix between 1984 and V for Vendetta..

Privacy and google... hmm... let me share a story about google+when i opened it some time ago, it offered me to add people to my circles and, naively i thought it would only add people that i have on my gmail account. What came as a shock to me, is that it added few people here from this forum. I mean, i only communicate with you over this forum - not over emails or in any other way. How do they know or am i being completely stupid and am missing something? I think privacy on net is long gone; today they just are trying to get this spying on us legal; they been doing it anyway all along it seems. And sure, it is about control, as Iggy pointed out, all those reasons they put out from time to time are just excuses.
But what really horrifies me is this - with this new laws they are pushing from all over the world, US, UK, most of Europe my country included, no longer government needs to prove that for instance i'm doing something wrong; they will treat anyone guilty of something and snoop around. Dark ages are coming if this all passes...

Oh, you can steal from the people, you can throw propaganda at them, you can poison their minds with religion, you can repress them, but you DON'T TOUCH THEIR INTERNET!

Seriously, there are bigger world problems, get over it.

Igor, you talk like the Internet is an insignificant thing rather than the life changing network that it is. Sure there is people dying out there, but that doesn't mean that our rights aren't important. It's a seperate issue - it doesn't have to be one or the other.

I trust Google, just because they have a colourful logo and were the underdogs. I am foolish.

Igor - In the history of mankind, never before has there been a network for instant communication between peoples of all cultures and locations. Establishing a baseline of rights and freedoms to keep this system in place is very important, and anything else is a step backwards.

Think about all the problems you've mentioned. Simply having an open internet to educate and hopefully help collaborate brings each and every one of these issues a little closer to a change. Those with the money and power know this, and that is why they want to bring it down.

Good post ^

satur8, on 19 April 2012 - 8:19 PM, said:

And how is all that threatened?
Internet in danger by the government?
Please, they make trillions out of it, they won't put their biggest product and propaganda placement option in danger.
Hur durr, they're going to monitor your precious e-mails.
Really? Do you know how many e-mails are being sent every second?
I hate to say it, but it fits perfectly in this situation, if you have done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear.

Bring down the internet....
What else am i going to read nowadays, they're going to stop capitalism?

igorchete, on 22 April 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

Bringing down the Internet is a bit strong, and incorrect. They are going to change it, for the worse, and your statement "if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear" sickens me. What an utterly ridiculous thing to say, it's not about me or you doing illegal things and being worried about being caught, it's about our RIGHT to privacy. I do not want somebody who I do not know having access to my private communications, why? Because they are for me and my intended recipient only. Do not forget that something that was once legal can become illegal so now we could all be doing something "wrong" in the eyes of the new law written by some backwards Government morons. In California it is legal to buy cannabis with a prescription, but that could easily be outlawed and the patients who relied upon the plant for pain relief have to now turn to "illegal" methods.

I know how many emails are sent per second, and I don't think anybody here is foolish enough to think a human being would read them... it would be monitored digitally with software looking for keywords. Put something quite innocent in your email e.g. "that party was da bomb" and they have reason to read your email now. Do you honestly think that our private data is going to be used legitimately? Now that is naive. Our privacy is precious, and it means a whole lot to many people. Terrorists will always be one step ahead so this idea of monitoring us is just a cover.

iguanapunk, on 23 April 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

Don't fool yourself.
How protected your privacy you think is now?
Hate to break it to you, it's not.
All the information you give when you sign-up anywhere, even the information you don't give them, all they need is your IP.
And what do the Cali stoners have to do with the subject?

igorchete, on 24 April 2012 - 2:06 PM, said:

proxy is your friend

for anybody interested http://www.snotr.com...A_is_a_bad_idea

I urge you to spent those 14min on this video to clarify some things; it's not all about illegal downloading, the issue goes much deeper than that

ThePumisher, on 24 April 2012 - 2:41 PM, said:

The only proxies good enough that actually protect your identity are not free.