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#1 WhiteNoise   User is offline

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 5:38 AM

View Posteddychemical, on 30 May 2012 - 5:49 PM, said:

most of the tunes you seem to like from Madrid are our new ones
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Speculated and Likely Chemical 8 Tunes:

"C.H.E.M.I.C.A.L."

Latest version, no. 3:



(Version 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UlTxYI7HbKY )

(Cocorico footage of Version 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=bTZ0PyYKrg8 )

(Version 1: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=AU6yNyVV7-E )

The pumping intro to nearly all of the Chems most recent DJ sets. The first part feels so much like a DJ tool, and so downright cheesy I don't know whether they've got the Chemical Balls to put it on an official album (but knowing the Chems they'll probably do it).

The song has been evolving since it first dropped. Version 1 is close to Version 2, but Version 2 has an adjusted structure and an added "body rock" vocal sample. Version 2 replaced the original around Dec 2012 at the Warehouse Project. Version 3 dropped around August 2014 @ Gallipoli and departed radically from the other versions, adding more Chemical sounds and an acid line as well as a very different structure, while ditching a few melodies and the intense breakdown the previous versions sported.

I think I'm the only one, but I hear the percussion from A Modern Midnight Conversation in the first part of the song. Also Maboul (or someone) has rightfully pointed out that the middle section sounds like it may have come from The Chems supposed dubstep sessions.

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Superflash

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=lhC8UWK-JFY

Above is the first footage of Superflash, shot at a DJ set in 2009. Champiness originally thought it was Horsepower, then it got forgotten for a while. It resurfaced in the 2011 live sets combined with the Acid Children Cherub Choir, and was finally released, officially, on the live album/film Don't Think:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Xk5V2R7_hX8

There's two versions of this track that we know of then, the one on the Don't Think and the studio version they've been dropping constantly in their DJ Sets. Superflash is almost certainly going to be on Chemical 8, but you never know - maybe they meant for it only to be a live track?

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"Eargasmic"

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=zQOkOEkF3Ac
(song starts at around 22 seconds in)

So much hype for Superflash yet none for this, and I am convinced the godliness of this track comes close to K+D+B. Just a mad psychedelic washing machine of harmonic shooting stars dropping with utterly satisfying timing, a cosmic space-storm kaledioscope of banging pumping fornicating Chemical synth lines. I think I'm channeling Simeon from Vibrations here, but you get the point. This is a great new track and there hasn't been near enough hype for it.

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"Pumisher's Erection Song" :mrgreen:
(aka Need Your Soul, for mature folks)

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=SifeatVM0fQ (HD footage from on stage, starts 2:30-3:00 minutes in)
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=lI_FMB-K4Gk (3:38)
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=t8mmUq3tefY (bad quality, more footage of ending)

1: We still haven't found an ID for it.
2: It features a spoken countdown/countup with a voice that sounds exactly like the voice used in the NYE Version of Midnight Madness (see the second video listed above).
3: There are some brilliant Chemical esque moments in this.

If this is a new Chemical Brothers song it's unlike anything they've done yet. I'm starting to think it might be an edit of another song specifically for DJing, similar to their edit of Shadowbreaker (Boyz Noize Remix 1).

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Odds and Ends That They Might Surprise Us With:

"Here Come The Drums"

Interview from the Come With Us era said:

Simons: We had a couple of good ideas happening that we just couldn't finish. This track called "Here Come the Drums" had some really good stuff in it, but we couldn't make it into a cool thing. That gets very aggravating after a while. It's a good joke to say, "Let's have another go at it." We couldn't get good drums to go with it.

Rowlands: When you have a track called "Here Come the Drums" it has to have the greatest drums you have ever heard. We knew in our hearts that they weren't. But we are coming back to that at some stage.

Yes I'm bringing this up again, and I have a valid reason to. Only a year and a half ago, Tom tweeted this:

"Going through records found this one..."

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https://twitter.com/...986061621465090
https://twitter.com/...986650254286848

It's an old test pressing of "Take High" (which is likely b-side H.I.A. in some form) and "Here Come Drums". So, maybe they're having another go at it? Last year, Mippio reported that Mchebne was convinced they played HCTD at Fire, which is flimsy evidence, sure, but it's something. It's hard to make speculation about what could be "Here Come The Drums" because we have no idea how it would sound, except that it would be very... drummy.

Update:

This could be it. The funky guitar/acid riffs and massive chord progressions are very reminiscent of other shelved CWU-era tracks, like Silver Drizzle or The Duke. The percussion is there, albeit distorted due to the camera's limitations. Give it a listen:



Update:

Version 3 of C.H.E.M.I.C.A.L. sounds timbrally similar to this, especially in the acid lines.

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"Problem/Question (Animal Track)"

Live version from Dec 2005 shows:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=7LSdLc_Y9iA

Updated version from 2006 Dj set:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=w0zrp5JhyAU

Snippet of studio version from Fake Blood Minimix (heard at 4:45):
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=6y9pS2psOus

No new news for this track. Maybe they resolved the bassline problems. We all hope so. Personally, I think the song would certainly fit the style of the tracks above.

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Speculation:

They've made mention of wanting to collaborate with Noel Gallagher again, and I admit I wouldn't mind hearing him on a new Chems song, not at all.

Tom is currently working with New Order on their new album in his usual role as producer, so we may hear some more Tom/Chems inclined sounds from their end, and hopefully a remix in the line of the Love Frequency remix.

Hope this helps a bit. If anyone has better quality/longer footage of any of the above tracks, please post them and I'll add them to the list.

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updated Aug 20
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Posted 04 August 2013 - 10:16 AM

@WN
Under your C.H.E.M.I.C.A.L comments you put the link to the 22 min footage from Fabrik Madrid. The first thing on there was the track that caught my ear. I was wondering why this wasn't mentioned, but then you do go on to bring it up under "Eargasmic". So yeah I agree it hasn't been mentioned enough. It sounds like something that would have fitted on to the last album really nicely. Whether that means it will fit on to the next one is a whole other question. It would be one way of creating a buzz among fans - produce stuff like this and never release it! If Bob Dylan can have all that extra fan attention over bootleg tapes etc why not the Chems?

Re HBHG. I would NOT want a re-work of that on a new Chems album. Love the Soulwax mix but wouldn't have expected that on a new Chems album. New stuff only please. And besides, that remix is not a chems mix. Someone has done a clever job (and I DO like it) of mixing the Chems with this Markus Binapfl track:


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 10:34 AM

I should qualify my last comment re HBHG by saying - I think someone has used that Markus B track. It sounds like the synth bit from (David Torts remix of) Markus' track has been fed through some piece of equipment or other before being mixed with the Chems...

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:24 AM

View PostWhiteNoise, on 04 August 2013 - 7:38 AM, said:

I think I'm the only one, but I hear the percussion from A Modern Midnight Conversation in the first part of the song.


You're not the only one ^^ I also pointed that out in another topic I think. I don't hear the dubstep part though

By the way, you made a mistake, the "full footage" link of C.H.E.M.I.C.A.L. doesn't have the track in it

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 1:41 PM

[quote name='WhiteNoise' date='04 August 2013 - 7:38 AM' timestamp='1375591118' post='215683']


Odds and Ends That They Might Surprise Us With:

"Here Come The Drums"

Interview from the Come With Us era said:

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Simons: We had a couple of good ideas happening that we just couldn't finish. This track called "Here Come the Drums" had some really good stuff in it, but we couldn't make it into a cool thing. That gets very aggravating after a while. It's a good joke to say, "Let's have another go at it." We couldn't get good drums to go with it.

Rowlands: When you have a track called "Here Come the Drums" it has to have the greatest drums you have ever heard. We knew in our hearts that they weren't. But we are coming back to that at some stage.

If they weren't pleased with it because of the track's titled premise, why didn't they just change the premise, ergo the title and release it eventually?!? We wouldn't have noticed I presume :D. Drums are always welcome when they come from the Chems even if they don't consider them "the greatest drums you have ever heard".


WhiteNoise said:

"Problem/Question (Animal Track)"

2005 Live:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=7LSdLc_Y9iA

2006 Dj Set:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=w0zrp5JhyAU

Fake Blood Minimix (studio version heard at 4:50):
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hYevOTTATIY

Maybe they resolved the bassline problems. We all hope so. Personally, I think the song would certainly fit the style of the tracks above.

If they don't release this track in one form or another, I'll be pissed and will go all chemicalReaction-like and will never ever listening to their music again, not even their past catalogue.
This is just an incredible peace of melody, simple but so effective. To paraphrase my statement about their Boiz Noiz remix of XTC and Tom's Pleasure track, if they/ he were/ was pleased with those basslines, what the foock was wrong with this one???? Get it done, boys!
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Posted 04 August 2013 - 3:46 PM

that retro/electro/breakbeat track at the start of: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=t8mmUq3tefY (bad quality, more footage)


Is that not a chems track potentially as well? (if not already mentioned). Love that one as well as "Pumisher's erection song".
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Posted 04 August 2013 - 6:37 PM

View PostBen_j, on 04 August 2013 - 6:24 AM, said:

By the way, you made a mistake, the "full footage" link of C.H.E.M.I.C.A.L. doesn't have the track in it

Fixed it, the right video is there now.

@Mikl Actually... isn't the breakbeat song part of the erection song?

@Csar Maybe HCTD became Saturate? We totally need to ask them.

@Skyscraper Thanks, I'm almost 100% certain that the Chems had nothing to do with that now. Crossed it off.
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Posted 05 August 2013 - 9:57 AM

Wow. Now THAT was an epic run through, mate. Well done.

[quote name='WhiteNoise' date='03 August 2013 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1375591118' post='215683']
Likely Chemical 8 Tunes:


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:45 PM

I totally agree about the 'Eargasmic' track
It's awesome, psychedelic madness.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 10:58 PM

^ +1
Further Remixed There's nothing else...

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 9:40 PM

Dayum. Impressive!!

Threads like this remind me of how awesome Chems fans are (and how much I love you all, too) <3
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 7:58 PM

I like the Boner-song.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 6:48 PM

If problem/question ever sees the light of day, I will be the happiest of campers.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 2:00 PM

View Postwhirlygirl, on 08 August 2013 - 4:40 PM, said:

Threads like this remind me of how awesome Chems fans are (and how much I love you all, too) <3


Agreed. Personally, Im convinced that Whitenoise is the new sneakerbeater.


Dont mind me I'm going to get nostalgic for a little bit....

Regarding the "animal track". Fuck! Brixton 05 seems like it was ages ago. That was a time where internet video was just starting out, and all we could rely on to stroke or chemical stiffies was photos and exuberant reviews from the few who attended. The best thing we had for recorded live footage was the 93-03 DVD. We've come a long way, baby.

View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 6:10 PM

i know this is unrelated, but do you think I Take LSD will make it on to Chemical 8?



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Posted 11 August 2013 - 6:58 PM

@Mr. Hoosteen: Forgot about that one!

I'm pretty sure that "I Take LSD" (a unofficial name for the improv between the HBHG demo and The Reel on the Osaka Japan '97 bootleg for those unfamiliar) was a very early prototype of Scale, b-side on the HBHG single.
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Posted 12 August 2013 - 3:47 PM

View PostWhiteNoise, on 11 August 2013 - 8:58 PM, said:

@Mr. Hoosteen: Forgot about that one!

I'm pretty sure that "I Take LSD" (a unofficial name for the improv between the HBHG demo and The Reel on the Osaka Japan '97 bootleg for those unfamiliar) was a very early prototype of Scale, b-side on the HBHG single.



they're similar in style, but not the same beats or riffs

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 10:47 PM

True. But take for example the Base 6 demo from the same set, which had a fast b-boy beat that didn't make it to the final mix. Also, Scale was released on the same single as the song that preceded it setwise. It's just a theory of mine.
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 6:28 PM

I'd have to agree with Whitenoise on that. I think it was just some live improv plus a few extra loops they might have been testing. But all the elements turned into other tracks.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 10:53 PM

sorry to bump again, but I have the slightest feeling those beeps at the end of the live Out of Control will be part of Problem Question

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