My mate Ed and i are going to watch this movie tonight , it's playing for 3 nights in an arthouse kinda theather.



Anybody of you seen it , and what did u think about it ?!



To me it sounds very intresting , some music history !!

It was ok, but due to record label conflicts, it had to leave out some of the most important Madchester bands, namely Stone Roses, Primal Scream and Inspiral Carpets, who were 100x more important to that scene than the Happy Mondays...

It was decent and funny but not mindblowing. Of more entertainment than historical value. Still, even without the Roses, Scream, etc. still a top, top soundtrack.

Jeanie Escribi�:

My mate Ed and i are going to watch this movie tonight , it's playing for 3 nights in an arthouse kinda theather.



Anybody of you seen it , and what did u think about it ?!



To me it sounds very intresting , some music history !!

Not seen the movie (which actually isn't THAT good, by all accounts) - but been to the Hacienda several times.

yeh i saw this when it came out, its pretty funny, lots of clever bits in it. and the song version of blue monday with no electronics is wicked.



steve coogan is pretty cool in it. somemates of mine in manc were at a party with steve coogan, and he was sat in a big leather chair doing loads of charlie - he kept doing a line then swinging round round going 'im alan partrideg - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa', laughing manically then doing another one hehehe. legend.

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and the song version of blue monday with no electronics is wicked.

Agreed. Killer.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

It was ok, but due to record label conflicts, it had to leave out some of the most important Madchester bands, namely Stone Roses, Primal Scream and Inspiral Carpets, who were 100x more important to that scene than the Happy Mondays...

gggrrrr. the mondays were madchester!!!!!

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toomuch'stash Escribi�:

It was ok, but due to record label conflicts, it had to leave out some of the most important Madchester bands, namely Stone Roses, Primal Scream and Inspiral Carpets, who were 100x more important to that scene than the Happy Mondays...

gggrrrr. the mondays were madchester!!!!!

yeah, but in terms of pure musicianship, they weren't even in the same league as the Stone Roses.... the Happy Mondays were barely one step above EMF.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

sneakerbeater Escribi�:

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

It was ok, but due to record label conflicts, it had to leave out some of the most important Madchester bands, namely Stone Roses, Primal Scream and Inspiral Carpets, who were 100x more important to that scene than the Happy Mondays...

gggrrrr. the mondays were madchester!!!!!

yeah, but in terms of pure musicianship, they weren't even in the same league as the Stone Roses.... the Happy Mondays were barely one step above EMF.

I will NOT tolerate anyone dissing the Epsom Mad Funkers. No one. Not even you, 'stash.



They remain a band that is so unbelievable.



(Plus, since when is musicianship important? If it was, I'd be listening to some DMC stuff instead of Brothers Gonna Work It Out right now. I do like the Roses and the Scream more than the Mondays overall, but the Mondays were a very important band, in spite of themselves.)

Just found this quote in a review of EMF's greatest hits:



"For better or worse, nobody else sounded like this. They weren't the Happy Mondays, they weren't Take That -- in the end perhaps the only band in history to sound like both."



hehehehe... faint praise indeed.

I like EMF, and it was 'Ecstacy Mother Fucker'...... but they were a novelty band... the happy mondays were a step above a novelty band... the only reason they got such incredible press was that they'd brew up huge tanks of mushroom tea and hand out pillz to the music reporters, who'd go home and write that it was the most incredible show they'd ever seen.

Well i have to say this was an intresting movie. Not mindblowing - but def worth a watch !! Cool to see how bands like Joy Division started out - and awesome to have a look in the famous Hacienda!

I will now commit chemical brothers sacriliege:



I wish that Ian Curtis had lived and the rest of Joy Division had killed themselves.



there. I said it.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

I like EMF, and it was 'Ecstacy Mother Fucker'...... but they were a novelty band... the happy mondays were a step above a novelty band... the only reason they got such incredible press was that they'd brew up huge tanks of mushroom tea and hand out pillz to the music reporters, who'd go home and write that it was the most incredible show they'd ever seen.

Actually, it was Ecstasy MIND Fuckers, but for PR reasons, they went with Epsom Mad Funkers. I won't disagree with anything you just said, but that doesn't make them any less unbelievable.

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Jeanie Escribi�:

My mate Ed and i are going to watch this movie tonight , it's playing for 3 nights in an arthouse kinda theather.



Anybody of you seen it , and what did u think about it ?!



To me it sounds very intresting , some music history !!

Not seen the movie (which actually isn't THAT good, by all accounts) - but been to the Hacienda several times.

How can you say that when you heven't seen the movie?? It isn't that great but is a good funny movie, and I really like the inside look of Factory records

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

I will now commit chemical brothers sacriliege:



I wish that Ian Curtis had lived and the rest of Joy Division had killed themselves.



there. I said it.

*shrug* I can't imagine music w/out 'Temptation', 'Bizarre Love Triangle' and 'True Faith'. Joy Division was certainly an amazing band, but far too many of the groups I enjoy today never would have existed without New Order.

Amen.









Tom and Ed were inspired by New Order.

Would they be were they are now if it wasn't for New Order ?

I mean , they still would be massive , but i think New Order has been there main influence kinda thingy.

blue monday is my get out of jail free card when dj'ing - never fails to rock it, wherever u play it, and those kick drums sound WICKED in the mix.



and u can mix the timo mass remix of dooms night over the top a treat an all :P

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toomuch'stash Escribi�:

I will now commit chemical brothers sacriliege:



I wish that Ian Curtis had lived and the rest of Joy Division had killed themselves.



there. I said it.

*shrug* I can't imagine music w/out 'Temptation', 'Bizarre Love Triangle' and 'True Faith'. Joy Division was certainly an amazing band, but far too many of the groups I enjoy today never would have existed without New Order.

Yeah, but, In My Extremely Skewed Opinon, Joy Division were artists, New Order are Pop Musicians.



It's like the differenece between the Brothers and DJ Tiesto.

I mean, it all comes down to cloning.



Whenever I'm faced with a difficult choice in life, I wish that I could be cloned and therefore have the option of making both choices. I'd have been interested in seeing where Joy Division went post-Closer, but with the benefit of hindsight I wouldn't want to have to sacrifice New Order to do it.



Honestly though, so much of Joy Division's power comes from Curtis' instability that it was inevitable that he would either be destroyed or would stabilize himself and the band would descend into irrelevance.



Same with Nirvana, honestly. Can you imagine Nirvana lasting into the "electronica" period of the late-90's? Most of their peers broke up, and very few were able to make non-embarrassing adjustments to a changing musical plane. (I'm biased, but I'd say the Pumpkins were about the only band able to, and even they broke up due to increasing irrelevance.)



I would never suggest that it was BETTER for Curtis (or Cobain, or anyone else) to die, but from a purely musical point of view...