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#21 whirly

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 2:23 AM

Good post, satur8. I like your perspective.


I don't care either way about DJ Hero as I don't think I will be investing the money to play it. That Beatles Rock Band looks like fun, though.


I really don't understand the mentality of music going down the shitter just because it is incorporated into a game, either. It's not as though the gaming industry is going to drag down the music industry (as if the music industry hasn't managed to drag itself down on its own well enough anyway). It's not as though the Beatles are an epic fail because you can now buy and play the Beatles Rock Band. The gaming industry is huge and that cannot be ignored. It's not just kids playing this stuff after school. It's a multi-billion dollar global industry enjoyed by people of all ages. It makes perfect creative and financial sense to cross market games and music - and games like Rock Band, DJ Hero and Guitar Hero are really clever concepts, I think.


I agree with satur8 - who knows what kind of inspiration a game like this might have on a kid who normally listens to what's spoon fed to him on the Disney channel. You never know!




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Posted 07 October 2009 - 3:11 AM

Oh my god those videos kill me.


"Besides, playing guitar hero doesn't make people think they are a guitarist"


You'd like to think. The majority of people are like this, but there are lots who think they are guitar gods from playing this.



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#23 satur8

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 12:29 PM

step 1 - Hand them an old guitar and ask them to play any song from guitar hero.


step 2 - laugh


step 3 - laugh some more


*This logic may not be a good idea for all games. I would not hand a Halo player my rifle or a Mario Cart racer the keys to my car...




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Posted 07 October 2009 - 9:59 PM

Nice post satur8.


What I don't like about this whole Guitar Hero/Rockband scene is that these songs that were once sacred are now raped of all their magic in peoples hearts who truely appreciate the music.



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#25 inchemwetrust

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 1:04 AM

Very intriguing post Satur8. Djing is not something you can pick up easily, as there is alot of technique (scratch DJ's), planning, knowing your music, and so much more. But the game pretty much takes the guesswork out of the actual mixing. Good for kids, but not for the rest of us.


funny shit on the 'Halo' reference btw.




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Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:56 PM

Soooo...Santa brought me this game for Christmas. Here's my long ass review for the brotherhood, the DJs, the gamers, the parents, and the posers.


It really is a lot of fun. It was quite a hit at our holiday party. Some of my friends whom would otherwise never listen to hip hop or electronic beats had a blast trying to get the timing down. My crowd was willing to take turns and pass the deck around, but the fact that it is primarily a one player game may lose the interest of the impatient people or the "ball hog" types at a gathering.


The overall gameplay is similar to that of Guitar Hero but the structure is a little different. Each level is a DJ set of 3 or 4 songs (sometimes more) and you have to play the entire set. Some sets are compiled by contributing DJs (Daft Punk, Grandmaster Flash, etc.) where other sets appear to be compiled by style (old school, rock fusion, etc.). I have not played the co-op guitar songs with another player yet, but they are included for solo play and need to be completed like any other level.


The soundtrack is very cool and well rounded. In general, I am not a fan of "mash-ups", but the majority are pretty good DJ cut up blends (as compared to simple run of the mill "vocal A on top of track B" mash-ups). Every song was specifically designed for the gameplay, which is a nice touch and keeps the music original. The songs are usually no longer than 4 minutes but you'll be glad for the break when the track ends. I would have liked more electronic tracks, yet surprisingly I found most of the hip hop flavored grooves to be the most fun to play with; I preferred Grandmaster Flash's & DJ Jazzy Jeff's sets to Daft Punk's.


The few kids in the room were all very interested in what we were doing and they all wanted a turn. It exposed them to a lot of classic tracks and opened up some interesting conversations about the history of DJ'ing. However, I'm not sure if I would call it a family game unless you are talking about teenagers. The tracks are edited for the major curses and such, which is just silly when suggestive tracks such as N.E.R.D.'s Lapdance are included on the playlist. Also, there are images of dancing girls on par with the women of Guitar Hero, which some people may want to know before considering a game for their small children. I think the T for Teen rating is a fair one for the concerned parents on the board, but a family that communicates responsibly should be fine. Then again, most parents just don't care what their kids do and wonder why their children are asses.


But I digress...


The characters and bonus items (costumes, headphone types, custom turntables and such) are nothing special, but they're not the reason you're playing the game. It's all about the new music you unlock and playing it at every level until you beat it as an expert. For instance, the "easy" level of a given song may be challenging enough with scratching and button timing, but the "medium" level will add cross fading in addition to more difficult scratching and button patterns. I should also mention that you can earn playable DJs such as Daft Punk, DJ AM, Jazzy Jeff and others along with the ones designed for the game.


As for the technical aspect, at no point did I feel like I was behind the wheels in a club. The turntable is quite cool and the game includes some pattern counting, scratching, a backspin, 5 active sample effects (dozens to pick from), and its own form of crossfading. That being said, playing this will make you a real DJ in the same way pressing "A" and "B" in Madden 2010 will make you an NFL quarterback. It is just a game. I think most people will understand this fact and those that don't will be shocked the first time they get behind a real 1 & 2.


If nothing else, this game has style and is a push in the right direction for the artists that make the turntable a thing of beauty. Oh, and it's a bunch of fun.


Pros - Fun for a group of friends, diverse and original mixes of music, challenging and unique gameplay.


Cons - Your friends will hate the music and don't like to share, all of your favorite tracks are completely ruined, you're not really a DJ in a real club with a real DJ set up playing real music for real people that would probably walk off your dancefloor anyway.


Choose your path.




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Posted 29 December 2009 - 4:27 AM

very good review, Satur8. I too, surprisingly got this for christmas as well. It was perfect, because it's one of those things that I wanted, but no way in hell would I buy it for myself.


I've yet to complete the game on the easy skill level. But I've already come across some mash-up gems. My favorites so far are probably the Tears for Fears - 'Shout' vs Eric Prydz - 'Pjanoo' and Gorillaz - 'Feel Good Inc' vs Blondie - 'Atomic' , Mash-ups.


Good Stuff...


Also, a bit off topic, but I just randomly came across the new Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories soundtrack, and found out that "Nude Night" made the list. Awesome.



View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:02 PM

Ok, I'm leaving this forum.



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#29 ThePumisher

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 2:19 PM

Cheers, have good time.




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Posted 29 December 2009 - 5:45 PM

Yeah Bosco, I wasn't going to drop $100+ on a game for myself so I was glad to receive it as a gift.


I was also pleasantly surprised by the quality mixes on the soundtrack. I'm not sure if I have a favorite yet, but I can tell you I like most of the tracks so far. One of my initial reservations was the 'cheese' factor, but it's just not there.




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Posted 30 December 2009 - 6:01 AM

I love the game. Bought it a little over a month ago, play it maybe once a week when I've got a few drinks in me. I'm not that good at it but I really like the music (the 'Disco Inferno' 50 Cent mashes with Bowie and with Blondie are ace!) and it's fun to rock the party with.


Definitely has nothing to do with actually being a DJ, but it's a fun game.




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Posted 01 January 2010 - 9:34 AM

The other day, I saw a 12 year old girl playing the demo version at the local Best Buy at a high skill level. I was really impressed. Kinda cool if this is her step stool into music rather than Hannah Montana.



View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 4:25 PM

Nothing wrong with Hannah Montana.




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Posted 03 January 2010 - 10:02 PM

On the contrary:


http://www.disneydre...a-bad-for-kids/




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Posted 05 January 2010 - 6:06 AM

I like sassy young girls who talk back. Again, nothing wrong with Hannah Montana.


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(Disclaimer: 7 is too young. I'm not a pedo.)




#36 vormov

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 7:43 AM

friend bought it. played it at his house a ton. it really is sorta fun, but i completely dislike the soundtrack. i didn't really like any of the DP mixes and i thought there were some key artists missing (fatboy slim to name one). its fun for a time, but i wouldnt buy it.


on the other hand i heard numark is working with some company on a similar game. just interesting to look out for i suppose.




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