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#1 chemicalreaction   User is offline

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Posted 10 September 2003 - 9:16 PM

Britney Spears has enlisted Moby, the Matrix and R. Kelly to produce tracks on her next album, due in November. She describes the new material as a departure from her previous three records.



"I'd describe it as trance-y," Spears says. "Kind of a vibe record. Something you could listen to that's not so song structured." After getting personal on her last album, 2001's Britney, Spears says the new album is a little more distant. "This record is definitely personal to me," she says. "But it's not shockingly personal. I think once you start being so self-serving with your music . . . I did a little bit of that with my last record, and I really didn't want to put myself out there that much."



Spears has spent much of past year in New York working on record. The Moby collaboration, "Early Mornin'," sounds like the aftermath of one of Spears' much publicized late nights at bars. "It's about going out at night and feeling like shit the next day," she says..LOL sorta like Where do i begin ?



I respected Moby but after this Moby/Spears collaboration that respect is gone......

Moby/Spears=Chemical/Flaming Lips ????.don't shoot me }:-)

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Posted 10 September 2003 - 9:47 PM

Ohhhh!Yuk

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Posted 10 September 2003 - 11:16 PM

A few inaccuracies spotted: Flaming Lips kick ass. Justin Timberlake, it turns out, is not bad. Oakenfold, on the other hand, is bad....

And Moby rocks. So if he makes a kickass track with Britney, I say "Go Britney!"

If its good, I'll listen to it.
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Posted 11 September 2003 - 12:51 AM

A lot of female artists are moving in this general direction. Britney has now joined the ranks of Modonna and Cher by bending the genre their music is in. These types of trends in music are always occuring in the music industry. Everyone is trying to get into another type of music their not based at.



I haven't heard the Pink/ Will o collab so I can't comment on that. Justin timberlake is the type of "artist" that has a sell out type additude. Instead of making music about what areas you want to cover, this type of artists starts the process by making music so that it will sell records and give people what they want. As for oakenfold, His songs are catchy at first, but the more of his material you listen to the more repetitive his songs are. They all take the same basic form with minor changes. I don't know if everyone else notices this, but I see the same trend with Dave Mathews

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 1:21 AM

Morning Lemon.
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Posted 11 September 2003 - 1:23 AM

GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:

A few inaccuracies spotted: Flaming Lips kick ass. Justin Timberlake, it turns out, is not bad. Oakenfold, on the other hand, is bad....

And Moby rocks. So if he makes a kickass track with Britney, I say "Go Britney!"

If its good, I'll listen to it.




I'm going to say the majority of my opinion lies in your beliefs. Someone asked Tom and Ed (on the slightly older site) if they would ever remix backstreet boys or britney. Ed said, "no" and Tom said (my fav line from a guy with some good ones), "You muppet!"



Could this mean Moby is a muppet? Indications say maybe. Last time he was doing something major was when he was on the MTV awards talking to Triumph (who as many of you have concluded is a Puppet). All lame jokes aside, I am very excited to hear this. Where do I begin is my second fav track on DYOH and a very unique song. Moby has done some good mellow music and britney... has been herself. So we'll see, maybe it will be something good. As I've said before, I like the Flaming lips. Timberlake is miles better than when he was in his pop group, his songs are more interesting, wouldn't say great but a step in the right direction. More real and catchy than generic synths.

I didn't like the Oakenfold song he did with that one hit dude, "starry-eyed surprise." What is this supposed "starry-eyed surprize?" Is it an english translation of a chinese food plate? Or is it just incoherent filler like "pompedous of love" (taken from that Steve Miller band Song)? Who knows, it leaves one felling very ignorant

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 1:23 AM

Oh yeah, and I've sen J.T. live. Man, he puts on a fuckin show. No where near as great as Chems, but still fuckin great. Thats where he really expresses himself and most of his tunes are uncommercialized. Hard, funked, and jazzed. Its really sweet. Oakenfold on the other hand... his recorded music is sometimes cool, but pretty boring, generally. [rant] AND HIS FUCKING LIVE PERFORMANCE. WTF! WHAT A FUCKTARD!!! [/rant]
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Posted 11 September 2003 - 2:53 AM

Oakenfold was fine when I first listened to transport. Now he's a complete washout. I've seen him play a few times. What a bore. The last tiem I saw him I was glad it was at a massive, because I could only tolerate about 10 minutes of the trip. His live performance is flat and his pseudo-Christ like poses on stage are little more than laughable.



Moby sucks. Sorry, he's an extremely talented guy with a great sense of humor and can make fun of himself, so that scores some points but it's not enough to save his integrity which was lost as soon as he pimped off all the rights to his songs for multiple advertising campains. Play was beautiful record, I was a big fan and I still enjoy God Moving Over The Face Of Waters off of "I Like To Score" but if there was one record that practically destroyed my view of Moby, Play was it. Play was this wonderful heartfelt record that really struck a chord with me until far too many commercials on television wiped it's ass with it. I could understand using a couple songs for commercials, I don't have a problem with that. But every time I turned on the television, I heard a Moby song being Played over and over and over ad nauseum. Advertising for Nordstroms of all things, the largesst fur retailer in the United States. The final straw was flipping through channels and seeing the opening credits to one of the most horrible and neurotic sitcoms ever: Veronica's Closet, and what was playing as a bunch of clumsy ass fashionistas aka Kirsty Alley were swishing on a catwalk? Bodyrock. In the case of Play, the songs do not remain the same. Tarnished. Forever. Then he had the audacity to do that duet with Gwen Stefani who sounds like a chihuahua is yelping through her nasal passages.



By the time 18 came out, I couldn't even bother. I am not at all surprised to see he has again sunk to new lows with this whole Britney collab.



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Posted 11 September 2003 - 8:03 PM

I like Moby but I haven't listened to 18 for ages.

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 8:50 PM

MMMmmm God moving over the face of the water is one of my fav songs it's the one that got me interested in moby. As for the play and ad scenario i do'nt know if people realise but there was no advertising for the album when it came out so they relied on the adverts to market the album and it worked pretty successfully eh ?

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 9:03 PM

I think a good point to make here is that nowadays producers seem to be more important then the (pop)artist itself. Justin Timberlake would not sound s good as he does now if the Neptunes and Timbaland didn't produce his album. Same goes for Pink and Britney. Even Madonna who asked Liam Howlett (of Prodigy) to produce her album ( which he refused thank god) and her last albums are produced by Mirwais and Jaques Lu Cont. An additional thing is that the artist are probably good enough to do business with these producers.

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 11:05 PM

griffin Escribi�:

MMMmmm God moving over the face of the water is one of my fav songs it's the one that got me interested in moby. As for the play and ad scenario i do'nt know if people realise but there was no advertising for the album when it came out so they relied on the adverts to market the album and it worked pretty successfully eh ?




I realize Moby wanted his music heard and turned to advertising to get his music out. He was struggling and he has been sincere, when asked, about why he did what he did. He also has not let his celebrity status go to his head, well according to the way he comes off in interviews. I just don't agree with how he went about it. The point is, I feel the integrity of then entire record Play was jeopardized. Not just them being used in tv commercials themselves, but the content of some of the commercials (and that god awful sitcom). Nordstroms - a nice place to shop but also happens to be the largest fur retailer in the United States. Something that I know Moby is totally against, given his animal rights activism and vegan lifestyle. And those Nordstrom commercials came out well after Moby's made his bucks, about a year after Play's release. I've got no problem with using a couple of songs for a couple of advertisements - the Chemicals have done it and so has my other favorite Spiritualized and tons of others. It's worked wonders for artists who want to their music out there and advertising can be a very effective tool. Some artist royalties from ads can go to the artists' further endeavors which can be a good thing. But enough is enough. But moderation is the key here and Moby far exceeded that to the disappointment of many fans like myself. I'm actually very liberal when it comes to my views on the subject, most people automatically deem musicians as sell outs if their music appears in an ad. I have family who work in advertising, which is why I tend to be biased on this topic. But the problem with Moby is he was a complete sell out.



My views on his talent and creativity remain as they always have though. But the whole Play fiasco has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 1:03 AM

hmmmm,, I don't watch TV so Play is still beautiful to me. And nothing will stop the lovin' of God Moving Over Of The Waters.
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 2:43 PM

I realize Moby wanted his music heard and turned to advertising to get his music out. He was struggling and he has been sincere, when asked, about why he did what he did. He also has not let his celebrity status go to his head, well according to the way he comes off in interviews. I just don't agree with how he went about it. The point is, I feel the integrity of then entire record Play was jeopardized. Not just them being used in tv commercials themselves, but the content of some of the commercials (and that god awful sitcom). Nordstroms - a nice place to shop but also happens to be the largest fur retailer in the United States. Something that I know Moby is totally against, given his animal rights activism and vegan lifestyle. And those Nordstrom commercials came out well after Moby's made his bucks, about a year after Play's release. I've got no problem with using a couple of songs for a couple of advertisements - the Chemicals have done it and so has my other favorite Spiritualized and tons of others. It's worked wonders for artists who want to their music out there and advertising can be a very effective tool. Some artist royalties from ads can go to the artists' further endeavors which can be a good thing. But enough is enough. But moderation is the key here and Moby far exceeded that to the disappointment of many fans like myself. I'm actually very liberal when it comes to my views on the subject, most people automatically deem musicians as sell outs if their music appears in an ad. I have family who work in advertising, which is why I tend to be biased on this topic. But the problem with Moby is he was a complete sell out.



My views on his talent and creativity remain as they always have though. But the whole Play fiasco has left a bad taste in my mouth.[/quote]



I guess i can see your point about the fur ad and so on but we don't get those ads in the uk and also the ads that used the play tunes don't air much if at all now it seems like they are really flogging the play album over in america ?

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Posted 12 September 2003 - 7:27 PM

Flogging is a great description of what happened to Play, griffin! It's been a while since any of the commercials with a Play song have aired in America. But the Moby songs in ads went on for well over a year. Plus the songs were used in television shows (like I mentioned) as well as background music and such. It just got to be way too much. You folks across the pond were lucky not to have been inundated with Moby songs in every other commercial/tv show. The thing is, I don't watch that much television, hardly any major network programming, but it goes to show just how much Play was... "flogged." ;)



Who knows, maybe with time as the memory grows kinder, I'll be able to listen to Play and enjoy it again...
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 11:28 PM

I must have missed this. What all went on with the Play advertising campaign?

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Posted 13 September 2003 - 12:16 AM

The sad thing is, Moby was already in his career 10 years before Play came out. His label did nothing to promote Play, or maybe they did, but very very little. He wanted his music to be heard and felt that the radio was no longer a viable means of getting his music out there. So he allowed for every track on Play to be liscensed for commercial use. I think he got somewhere around $15 million - and he actually did donate a LOT of that money to environmentalist/animal rights charities.



I remember there was a Baily's Irish Cream commercial, using the song Porcelain (it was my favorite track on the record.) Songs were also used in Nissan ads as well as American Express, Nordstroms, etc. The ads with Play songs were everywhere you only had to turn on your television to listen. Pop/rock/jazz/classical/etc/ songs have always been used as television commercial jingles so it wouldn't have surprised me to hear maybe a couple of Moby songs on tv. But Play was abused by the advertising machine, and he pretty much allowed it to happen.
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