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Die Moby Die
#1
Posted 10 September 2003 - 9:16 PM
"I'd describe it as trance-y," Spears says. "Kind of a vibe record. Something you could listen to that's not so song structured." After getting personal on her last album, 2001's Britney, Spears says the new album is a little more distant. "This record is definitely personal to me," she says. "But it's not shockingly personal. I think once you start being so self-serving with your music . . . I did a little bit of that with my last record, and I really didn't want to put myself out there that much."
Spears has spent much of past year in New York working on record. The Moby collaboration, "Early Mornin'," sounds like the aftermath of one of Spears' much publicized late nights at bars. "It's about going out at night and feeling like shit the next day," she says..LOL sorta like Where do i begin ?
I respected Moby but after this Moby/Spears collaboration that respect is gone......
Moby/Spears=Chemical/Flaming Lips ????.don't shoot me }:-)
#4
Posted 10 September 2003 - 11:16 PM
And Moby rocks. So if he makes a kickass track with Britney, I say "Go Britney!"
If its good, I'll listen to it.
#6
Posted 11 September 2003 - 12:51 AM
I haven't heard the Pink/ Will o collab so I can't comment on that. Justin timberlake is the type of "artist" that has a sell out type additude. Instead of making music about what areas you want to cover, this type of artists starts the process by making music so that it will sell records and give people what they want. As for oakenfold, His songs are catchy at first, but the more of his material you listen to the more repetitive his songs are. They all take the same basic form with minor changes. I don't know if everyone else notices this, but I see the same trend with Dave Mathews
#8
Posted 11 September 2003 - 1:23 AM
GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:
A few inaccuracies spotted: Flaming Lips kick ass. Justin Timberlake, it turns out, is not bad. Oakenfold, on the other hand, is bad....
And Moby rocks. So if he makes a kickass track with Britney, I say "Go Britney!"
If its good, I'll listen to it.
I'm going to say the majority of my opinion lies in your beliefs. Someone asked Tom and Ed (on the slightly older site) if they would ever remix backstreet boys or britney. Ed said, "no" and Tom said (my fav line from a guy with some good ones), "You muppet!"
Could this mean Moby is a muppet? Indications say maybe. Last time he was doing something major was when he was on the MTV awards talking to Triumph (who as many of you have concluded is a Puppet). All lame jokes aside, I am very excited to hear this. Where do I begin is my second fav track on DYOH and a very unique song. Moby has done some good mellow music and britney... has been herself. So we'll see, maybe it will be something good. As I've said before, I like the Flaming lips. Timberlake is miles better than when he was in his pop group, his songs are more interesting, wouldn't say great but a step in the right direction. More real and catchy than generic synths.
I didn't like the Oakenfold song he did with that one hit dude, "starry-eyed surprise." What is this supposed "starry-eyed surprize?" Is it an english translation of a chinese food plate? Or is it just incoherent filler like "pompedous of love" (taken from that Steve Miller band Song)? Who knows, it leaves one felling very ignorant
#9
Posted 11 September 2003 - 1:23 AM
#10
Posted 11 September 2003 - 2:53 AM
Moby sucks. Sorry, he's an extremely talented guy with a great sense of humor and can make fun of himself, so that scores some points but it's not enough to save his integrity which was lost as soon as he pimped off all the rights to his songs for multiple advertising campains. Play was beautiful record, I was a big fan and I still enjoy God Moving Over The Face Of Waters off of "I Like To Score" but if there was one record that practically destroyed my view of Moby, Play was it. Play was this wonderful heartfelt record that really struck a chord with me until far too many commercials on television wiped it's ass with it. I could understand using a couple songs for commercials, I don't have a problem with that. But every time I turned on the television, I heard a Moby song being Played over and over and over ad nauseum. Advertising for Nordstroms of all things, the largesst fur retailer in the United States. The final straw was flipping through channels and seeing the opening credits to one of the most horrible and neurotic sitcoms ever: Veronica's Closet, and what was playing as a bunch of clumsy ass fashionistas aka Kirsty Alley were swishing on a catwalk? Bodyrock. In the case of Play, the songs do not remain the same. Tarnished. Forever. Then he had the audacity to do that duet with Gwen Stefani who sounds like a chihuahua is yelping through her nasal passages.
By the time 18 came out, I couldn't even bother. I am not at all surprised to see he has again sunk to new lows with this whole Britney collab.
/end rant
#12
Posted 11 September 2003 - 8:50 PM
#13
Posted 11 September 2003 - 9:03 PM
#14
Posted 11 September 2003 - 11:05 PM
griffin Escribi�:
MMMmmm God moving over the face of the water is one of my fav songs it's the one that got me interested in moby. As for the play and ad scenario i do'nt know if people realise but there was no advertising for the album when it came out so they relied on the adverts to market the album and it worked pretty successfully eh ?
I realize Moby wanted his music heard and turned to advertising to get his music out. He was struggling and he has been sincere, when asked, about why he did what he did. He also has not let his celebrity status go to his head, well according to the way he comes off in interviews. I just don't agree with how he went about it. The point is, I feel the integrity of then entire record Play was jeopardized. Not just them being used in tv commercials themselves, but the content of some of the commercials (and that god awful sitcom). Nordstroms - a nice place to shop but also happens to be the largest fur retailer in the United States. Something that I know Moby is totally against, given his animal rights activism and vegan lifestyle. And those Nordstrom commercials came out well after Moby's made his bucks, about a year after Play's release. I've got no problem with using a couple of songs for a couple of advertisements - the Chemicals have done it and so has my other favorite Spiritualized and tons of others. It's worked wonders for artists who want to their music out there and advertising can be a very effective tool. Some artist royalties from ads can go to the artists' further endeavors which can be a good thing. But enough is enough. But moderation is the key here and Moby far exceeded that to the disappointment of many fans like myself. I'm actually very liberal when it comes to my views on the subject, most people automatically deem musicians as sell outs if their music appears in an ad. I have family who work in advertising, which is why I tend to be biased on this topic. But the problem with Moby is he was a complete sell out.
My views on his talent and creativity remain as they always have though. But the whole Play fiasco has left a bad taste in my mouth.
#15
Posted 12 September 2003 - 1:03 AM
#17
Posted 12 September 2003 - 2:43 PM
My views on his talent and creativity remain as they always have though. But the whole Play fiasco has left a bad taste in my mouth.[/quote]
I guess i can see your point about the fur ad and so on but we don't get those ads in the uk and also the ads that used the play tunes don't air much if at all now it seems like they are really flogging the play album over in america ?
#18
Posted 12 September 2003 - 7:27 PM
Who knows, maybe with time as the memory grows kinder, I'll be able to listen to Play and enjoy it again...
#20
Posted 13 September 2003 - 12:16 AM
I remember there was a Baily's Irish Cream commercial, using the song Porcelain (it was my favorite track on the record.) Songs were also used in Nissan ads as well as American Express, Nordstroms, etc. The ads with Play songs were everywhere you only had to turn on your television to listen. Pop/rock/jazz/classical/etc/ songs have always been used as television commercial jingles so it wouldn't have surprised me to hear maybe a couple of Moby songs on tv. But Play was abused by the advertising machine, and he pretty much allowed it to happen.