Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

My car. My car broke. My car broke again.



Timing belt snapped on the way home today, will be very lucky if I have no bent valves or holes in pistons. Thus, if I don't have to completely replace or rebuild my head, I will consider myself content. Otherwise we're looking at $1500 in repairs.



It will be out of commission for at least a couple weeks. Likely longer.



Oh, and did I mention I was planning to pay this car off in two weeks? Fucking piece of shit.

How many miles had it done? What speed were you doing at the time?

What make of car is it, what size/type of engine?

I was dead paranoid of timing belt failure in my car, so I got it changed at it cost me �280! But my car has the kind of engine that gets totalled by a cambelt breaking, so would have written the car off if it did

yeh your car is pimping though mike 8) love it! :D



my emu soundcards stopped working :( gonna reboot, hope this works,

chemicalfan Escribi�:

How many miles had it done? What speed were you doing at the time?

What make of car is it, what size/type of engine?

I was dead paranoid of timing belt failure in my car, so I got it changed at it cost me �280! But my car has the kind of engine that gets totalled by a cambelt breaking, so would have written the car off if it did

237,000 km, but it had a total head job incl. a timing belt replacement just before I bought it 40,000 km ago.



1990 Eagle Talon TSI AWD, 2.0 L turbocharged 4-cylinder.



Was driving at about 80 km/h when I heard and felt a loud "bang!"

It's pretty impressive that your car has made it as long as it has in such extreme weather conditions, considering the age of the car. I imagine you're not exactly a granny driver either! ;)



If you're not in the market for getting a new(er) car, just pay it off and pay the repairs, sit back and enjoy not having a car payment for as long as you can.



I plan on driving mine until it completely dies (considering it's a Ford Focus, might happen at any time!) You have me freaked out about timing belts now, so I'm going to have my mechanic take a look next week when I bring my car in. My car's got over 86,000 miles on it and needs a tune up and wheel alignment and likely new brakes so I might as well have them take a look and the belt while they're at it.



I wish my car had a timing chain.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

237,000 km, but it had a total head job incl. a timing belt replacement just before I bought it 40,000 km ago.



1990 Eagle Talon TSI AWD, 2.0 L turbocharged 4-cylinder.



Was driving at about 80 km/h when I heard and felt a loud "bang!"

Hmm, kinda surprised it broke then if it was only 40k old. That said, I'm not familiar with tha car at all (I've never heard of Eagle :-// ), so maybe changing the belt involved other bits like the tensioner (the part that's most susceptible in mine, for example). If they weren't replaced and failed, it would break the belt so the effect is the same - just a different cause.

The car sounds sweet, but I'm guessing it's probably a multi-valve injected engine, which doesn't bode well. They don't fair so well in the cambelt failure stakes, but it all depends on the clearances. Quick look on wikipedia confims DOHC, so a few valves might be toast. I'm guessing your engine speed wasn't that high at 80k/h, cruising in 5/6th, which would have limited the damage. However, if you were accelerating and had about 4000rpm on the go, it's looking worse.

Until it's taken apart, you won't know the damage, but I'm guessing a car built in 1990 with 237k (150,000 miles) on the clock doesn't have great value, so it may well have written the car off :?



Good luck mate :(

If you're looking for something new I'd say get a Scion because they are really inexpensive and one of the best values around - but they are rear wheel drive (at least stash's is, don't know about teh Tc or the xA). That would be terrifying to drive a rear wheel drive car out where you are. Unless you want to risk unintentional Tokyo drifting on a constant basis. The Toyota Yaris is also a good value for the money, but everything on them is extra and they are a base econo-box (but the 2-door coups are pretty cool looking I think). It might be kind of hard for you to revert back to a 1.5 l engine after having a turbo 2.0 - then again, with the cost of gas, a car that gets 40mpg might be appealing.



What do you think you'll do Darkstar - get another car or sit this one out, pay up and be out from under the ball and chain of car payment servitude in a couple of weeks?

All the crazy religious motherfuckers making this world a shitty place to live in worldwide.

TheFlamingDead_ Escribi�:

All the crazy religious motherfuckers making this world a shitty place to live in worldwide.

amen! Religion has no place in this world anymore. }:-@

Bosco Escribi�:

TheFlamingDead_ Escribi�:

All the crazy religious motherfuckers making this world a shitty place to live in worldwide.

amen! Religion has no place in this world anymore. }:-@

Hopefully as people evolve to have higher IQs, the world starts getting a better education, and the bastards in power stop rying to use it to motivate others to their political agenda, maybe there actually will be no place for it in the future. But as far the present goes, things aren't looking bright.

TheFlamingDead_ Escribi�:

Bosco Escribi�:

TheFlamingDead_ Escribi�:

All the crazy religious motherfuckers making this world a shitty place to live in worldwide.

amen! Religion has no place in this world anymore. }:-@

Hopefully as people evolve to have higher IQs, the world starts getting a better education, and the bastards in power stop rying to use it to motivate others to their political agenda, maybe there actually will be no place for it in the future. But as far the present goes, things aren't looking bright.

remember people!......"there is no spoon"

whirlygirl Escribi�:

It's pretty impressive that your car has made it as long as it has in such extreme weather conditions, considering the age of the car. I imagine you're not exactly a granny driver either!

I actually don't drive my vehicles that hard, except on rare occasions. I like them to stay in one piece.



My previous car was still ticking at 425,000 km when I gave it to my aunt.



My first car was a big, heavy rear-wheel drive, 305 V8 1984 Pontiac Grand Prix. Loved that thing. No traction, but hella drifting. :D



Driving in snow and ice doesn't faze me in the least; AWD just makes it mindlessly easy.



I think I'll likely fix it and move on, but it's quite the pisser right now. Don't need this crap.



I can't afford a car payment at all right now, because I need to take out more on my line of credit for school this year. Which is why I was going to completely pay out my car loan this month.

chemicalfan Escribi�:

I've never heard of Eagle :-//

Same car as the Mitsubishi Eclipse.



Probably was the tensioner, hard to say though. Timing belts are known to be a problem on this car, which is why I bought the one I did: it had just had a head job and timing belt replacement!



Looked at the belt closer last night. Looks in near-mint condition, except for one or two missing teeth and, of course, the fact that it split in the middle.



I was at about 3,000 rpm in 4th gear at the time.





The beast in spring.





One in nicer shape than mine.

Girls

Justice is making a small US mini tour and one of the dates is in Chicago. But one fuckin problem, the venue they are playing at is 21 and older........ }:-@ }:-@ }:-@ THIS IS NOT FUCKING FAIR!!!!!! }:-@ }:-@ }:-@



now i gotta get myself a fake ID }:-@

I hate the funk. Not the good kind of funk, but the kind of funk that I need to snap out of. I either need meds or a small getaway preferrably both. And I think I'm due for my monthly, and can tell it's not going to be pretty.



(Sorry for sharing, boys. I just had to get that off my chest. }:-@ )

Yeah Whirly i feel yah girl!



- Boys i am warning yay -



I'm gonna have it on monday and i am sooooo GRRR!!!

Yesterday i was just sad but now i am in [Bitchy Mode]

Nobody will fuck around with me today.



Like mr Garrison said ; never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die.



You have my nr Whirly , you can call me anytime!

Jeanie Escribi�:

Like mr Garrison said ; never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die.

HAHA! wow, that's brilliant X-D

My car. Again. Nothing really big, but I had to replace a tire today ($150), just replaced a power steering hose last weekend ($85), need new front rotors ($50), and need an alignment. It also needs new front shocks, but I'm not forking out for that now.



I'm fucking sick of it. It's going, going, gone. The only thing keeping me going was the fact that I owe only about $800 left on it and it's AWD. As much as I would love to have no car payment, the repairs are just stupid.



I'm looking at 2002 Saturn SC1's. They are little econoboxes with no power, but they're really good on gas, sporty-looking, and made of plastic (so they won't ever rust).



I've got a couple good leads, just need to hope they don't sell before the weekend. I can't really afford a car payment, but with repairs I'm currently paying on a regular basis, I might as well not have a beat-up shitmobile. The three below are the ones I'm looking at buying. Car payments will only be about $30/month more than what I'm paying now for a 17 year old car. Ridiculous.











I like the looks of the silver one best, but it's the least-equipped of the three. Hopefully I'll be posting one of these pics in the Now Buying thread next week.



Oh yeah, and I'm hating the fact that every decent hotel near Giant's Ridge, Minnesota is booked for when we're trying to go snowboarding. Might have a 35 minute drive each way to the mountain, but whatever. We're going to make it happen. Even though I can't afford it. Fuck it. Need to get away.

Darkstar, I'm sorry to hear about your recurring (ad nauseum) car troubles. Sometimes you just don't have a choice but to buy something newer and more reliable - you've got my support on that! Do what's best for you. It sounds like your current ride is turning into a money pit!!



The Saturn looks nice and they have improved greatly in performance, design and dependability over the years. Out of the 3 I dig the red, but that could be a cop magnet. ;) Silver is much easier to take care of. Speaking from experience, do not get black unless you can keep it garaged and like having a car that almost always looks filthy 10 minutes after you wash it.



Hope to see one of them in the Now Buying thread!! ;)

Dude, those cars look sweet! What's the spec?

chemicalfan Escribi�:

Dude, those cars look sweet! What's the spec?

Not nearly as quick as they look, unfortunately!



The SC1 has a 1.9 SOHC I-4, pumping out a whopping 100 hp at 5200 rpm, and 115 ft-lbs torque at 2400 rpm. (There is an available SC2 model with about 20 more horsepower, but it's a little out of my price range.)



Fortunately, the torque comes at low rpms and the car is around 2400 lbs only, which is over 800 lbs lighter than my Talon (3275 lbs w/ 195 hp at 6300 rpm and 203 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm, IIRC.)



Quarter-mile is probably something embarrassing like in the 17-second range. But I don't race, so I don't care.



Fuel economy in the review I read is around 32 mpg combined city and highway driving (26 in the city, 40 on the highway, according to official specs). Front-wheel drive of course, which is probably better for the winter.



Supposed to be reliable, but not quite as refined as its Japanese competitors. Suspension is a little on the soft side, so it will handle uneven pavement well (necessary for Winnipeg!), but I'm expecting a bit more body roll than I'd prefer. I can always change some suspension parts later when I have some money.



I'm leaning towards the black one (despite the difficulties with keeping it clean), because it's fully loaded with power everything and the aluminum wheels, which is nice. It's also a standard. Reviews say the SC1 with an automatic feels a little sluggish, but the standard livens it up a fair bit.



The body is made of a rust-free, dent-resistant polymer, which is nice considering winter conditions around here.



The ones I'm looking at cost around $8000-9000 (< 4000 GBP) and monthly payments will barely exceed what I'm paying on my Talon, which is 17 years old now.



I'll probably buy a new CD/Mp3 headunit for it and will definetly transfer over my speakers, sub, and amp from the Talon. No tunes = me no drive. Simple as.





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And we've booked a hotel room for snowboarding at Giant's Ridge. Yay!