The European Playstation 3 launch is a total fiasco. I was at the Champs Elys�es at midnight for the launch with 5 friends, all of us wearing Raving Rabbids masks :D There was approximately 100 persons. We did the queue just for fun and once I was into the Fnac, I asked a DS Lite. They didn't want to sell one to me (or they didn't have some in stock, I don't know) :(







At the Tour Eiffel it was an even bigger fiasco : 1000 PS3, 50 buyers :D An XBOX 360 boat passing by, with a big "XBOX 360 <3 YOU" banner.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=M77wLGe7_RQ



I also saw an article about the launch at the Virgin Megastore of London, where they got 2 buyers xD

Oh, you gamer geeks and your 1337 pissing contests!! ;)



We have an XBox and a Wii, and we're thinking of getting a Playstation 3 next. We're kind of going back and forth between either getting the XBox 360 or the PS3 - but the PS3 is winning out because of its multimedia capabilities (stash made a convincing argument with me the other night).



Anyway - the bottom line is we like to be entertained. I don't care too much about pissing contests like which console is better than which because in a couple of years something bigger better and newer's going to be out. I just like having variety and I like my house to be a fun place with plenty to do and plenty to choose from. Oh - and I want in on Blue Ray for two words: Blade Runner.

XBOX crashed all the Ps3 launch party's it was so funny! PS3 were giving away free ps3's if people with xbox360s got their xbox's and smashed them off a wall and everything!

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here people have been buying every PS3 not already sold, going crazy for them.

GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:

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here people have been buying every PS3 not already sold, going crazy for them.

As James Murphy says "North American Scum" :P

Yeah, people were getting trampled over PS3's when they first came out here. Then again, people were getting trampled when Wal-Mart had sales for dvd players for $30. People will trample other people for consumer goods - it's crazy!



Shortly after PS3's sold out, they were immediately up on Craig's List or ebay going for thousands of dollars. And people were buying them. I just... I just don't get it. That seems so stupid to me. And here we are only a couple months later, and you can now walk into most Game Stops or Targets or wherever and get the PS3... but Wii's are still very very difficult to come by. And finally, the Wii-motes are starting to finally come back on to store shelves. Which will be nice so we all can play with our son's Christmas present!



The problem is, while the technology is wicked on the PS3, it is ridiculously out of reach - $599 is a stupid amount of money to pay for a gaming console and that is my biggest argument against getting one. How much are the PS3's going for in Europe??

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Yeah, people were getting trampled over PS3's when they first came out here. Then again, people were getting trampled when Wal-Mart had sales for dvd players for $30. People will trample other people for consumer goods - it's crazy!



Shortly after PS3's sold out, they were immediately up on Craig's List or ebay going for thousands of dollars. And people were buying them. I just... I just don't get it. That seems so stupid to me. And here we are only a couple months later, and you can now walk into most Game Stops or Targets or wherever and get the PS3... but Wii's are still very very difficult to come by. And finally, the Wii-motes are starting to finally come back on to store shelves. Which will be nice so we all can play with our son's Christmas present!



The problem is, while the technology is wicked on the PS3, it is ridiculously out of reach - $599 is a stupid amount of money to pay for a gaming console and that is my biggest argument against getting one. How much are the PS3's going for in Europe??

Same price... It's good to buy if you use it as a Blue Ray player. BUT the first price Blue Ray players are 1200$... Sony usually do crappy pieces of hardware, that break up easily. Imagine how strong must be a $600 Blue Ray player by Sony

If you want to play, get an XBOX 360. If you want to watch HD Movies, get the extra HD player for the 360 that is only 200$ more, and that you absolutely don't need for the moment. Unless you REALLY want to watch HD movies right here right now

Up XBOX!



The wii definitely riddled the gaming market - they're stacks of crack[fun].

I think the prices on consumer electronics go a bit like this:



USA: 599 dollars

Europe, excluding...: 599 euros

...England: 599 pounds



:)



And isn't buying a ps3 more like betting on the future since there is not much anything you can do with the console now? Even if the ps3 succeeds later on you still haven't won anything over the people who buy the system after some price drops.

Ben_j Escribi�:

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Yeah, people were getting trampled over PS3's when they first came out here. Then again, people were getting trampled when Wal-Mart had sales for dvd players for $30. People will trample other people for consumer goods - it's crazy!



Shortly after PS3's sold out, they were immediately up on Craig's List or ebay going for thousands of dollars. And people were buying them. I just... I just don't get it. That seems so stupid to me. And here we are only a couple months later, and you can now walk into most Game Stops or Targets or wherever and get the PS3... but Wii's are still very very difficult to come by. And finally, the Wii-motes are starting to finally come back on to store shelves. Which will be nice so we all can play with our son's Christmas present!



The problem is, while the technology is wicked on the PS3, it is ridiculously out of reach - $599 is a stupid amount of money to pay for a gaming console and that is my biggest argument against getting one. How much are the PS3's going for in Europe??

Same price... It's good to buy if you use it as a Blue Ray player. BUT the first price Blue Ray players are 1200$... Sony usually do crappy pieces of hardware, that break up easily. Imagine how strong must be a $600 Blue Ray player by Sony

If you want to play, get an XBOX 360. If you want to watch HD Movies, get the extra HD player for the 360 that is only 200$ more, and that you absolutely don't need for the moment. Unless you REALLY want to watch HD movies right here right now

Yeah - we're a ways off from getting a special DVD player that's HD or Blu Ray. They're still way too expensive, and we don't want to jump the gun. The prices for those players will go down as soon as the porn industry decides whether they'll go with Blu Ray or HD DVD. (it's true, the porn industry tends to be the decising factor!) If I spend a hunk of change on any consumer electronics I want them to last a while - and I'd hate to get Blu Ray only to see HD dvd dominate the market, or vice versa. I'm really showing my age here but I remember the VHS vs. Betamax and it took a few years for VHS to override the market. Both machines VHS and Betamax cost a small fortune way back then, so Betamax was eventually phased out leaving the people who paid craploads of cash for Betmax players screwed.



I have a pretty sweet home theater set up (and a swank Sony HD 52" tv that's held up very very well, and for sheer picture quality there's not much else that's better) and we enjoy having friends over to watch movies... what can we say, we don't get out much!! So we look at purchasing a console with either the HD or Blu Ray capabilities as a good investment we can get a lot from and above all, enjoy.



I'll let stash argue his points. :P

I think I heard that the porn industry already "chose" at least the hd dvd .. even so I think they will use both in the end. It has also been said that although porn drives consumer technology the physical distribution format is not that important anymore because of the net.



Here's an idea: let's ask the chems about this! With their potent chems-porn connections we are sure to get a decisive answer!

soundertow Escribi�:

Here's an idea: let's ask the chems about this! With their potent chems-porn connections we are sure to get a decisive answer!

Aaahahahaa!! But of course, the age old Chems/Porn connection!!!

I was a complete xbox fanboy, until I realized a few things about the PS3:





First off, the xbox HD addon can ONLY play movies, it cannot be used for gaming content.



That means that eventually, the PS3 games will have a maximum size of 50 GIGs, compared to the 9 gigs max size of an xbox game.



5 times the content, and there's absolutely no way that xbox can beat that, ever. well, I guess they could ship a game on 5 seperate DVDs, but that's unlikely.



Secondly, the PS3 hardware is much more advanced than the xbox hardware. Twice as many processors or something. The reason the games *right now* don't look better is that the hardware is so advanced no one really knows yet how to program for it. When they get it opitmized, it will basicly be Pixar movie quality (there's a PS3 game coming out called Little Big Planet, that looks like a pixar film).



So, it's going to be a lot longer before the PS3 is obsolete.



Lastly, the new PS3 online service, called Home, is simply fuckin amazing. You get to make an avatar, map your own face to it, and there's a huge, persistent online world, where you get your own apartment, that you can stock with whatever digital content you want. Want to have your virtual friends over to watch a movie? upload it to your PS3, invite them over, then all their TVs will stream the flick in full screen to THIER ps3s. same goes for movies and pictures. Want to watch a movie you don't own? you walk your avatar to the virtual cinema, and bam, full screen HD quality movies.



And how much does SOny charge for their online service? Nada. That means that a PS3 is actually cheaper than an xbox with a wireless adapter and a year of xbox live.



PS3 > xbox.



Like I said, I was a xbox fanboy, and it hurts to admit I was wrong, but I was.



As for the wii, it's a novelty, not a next gen entertainment center.

my brother's friend PS3, totally melted. It was all fucked up. Luckily he had a warranty on it.



Seriously though, the PS3 is really impressive. However, like Ben J said, Sony's products are sooooooo breakable. I've gone through 3 fuckin PS2's. }:-@



The only time I'll be really jealous I dont have a PS3 is when GTA4 comes out.

lulz

Quad layers DVDs have just been invented. They're as cheap as normal dual layers, and any DVD Player (including I guess XBOX 360) can play them, so 18GB. Do you really think developpers will bother doing optimised games for the PS3 ? And all that powerful hardware thing is what Sony tells you, but this is all bullshit...

Bosco Escribi�:

my brother's friend PS3, totally melted. It was all fucked up. Luckily he had a warranty on it.



Seriously though, the PS3 is really impressive. However, like Ben J said, Sony's products are sooooooo breakable. I've gone through 3 fuckin PS2's. }:-@



The only time I'll be really jealous I dont have a PS3 is when GTA4 comes out.

GTA4 will be on the 360 too...

Bosco Escribi�:

my brother's friend PS3, totally melted. It was all fucked up. Luckily he had a warranty on it.



Seriously though, the PS3 is really impressive. However, like Ben J said, Sony's products are sooooooo breakable. I've gone through 3 fuckin PS2's. }:-@



The only time I'll be really jealous I dont have a PS3 is when GTA4 comes out.

I'm pretty sure that GTA4 is gonna be on the 360 too.... all the old PS exclusives, even metal gear, are coming out on the 360.

How can *pretty much all* DVD players read in ways they are not programmed to?

Also, it seems very likely neither BluRay nor HD-DVD will win over the other, as Sony is able now to leverage the market with their growing catalogue -- people will not be in favour of rejecting Sony Pictures.... people will need a player to do both (e.g. the LG player) or both players. if anything, BluRay is the probable dominant force, for it is the better technology with many many potential facets -- such as highly accessible disc printing (the ability to print data onto a disc).



I think Sony and Microsoft both, however, have made several mistakes in manufacturing and design, a lot of right-hand-left-hand issues. IBM hates the stress they put on their fabs, for instance.

That's what a friend told me. I searched more informations :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hd_vmd