ey dan if you dont have any other hardware, i would suggest getting ableton live.. similar function, but wont require buying more and more gear. then again there is nothing wrong with lots of gear. }:-) *looks around himself* }:-)

cat Escribi�:

ey dan if you dont have any other hardware, i would suggest getting ableton live.. similar function, but wont require buying more and more gear. then again there is nothing wrong with lots of gear. }:-) *looks around himself* }:-)

Let's not get into this into this *again*, please... ;-)



I'm pretty sure I've seen underworld using a laptop, but, as it was pointed out, you cannot see anything behind the big desk... The show was really great.



I've got the D.A.F.T. DVD and there's a live footage of Rolling and Scratching, basically their method is quite similar. I don't have the DVD anywhere near me, but I should dig it to check out what is the main sequencer.





All in all, it is quite hard making electronic music live without the feeling of "Ubergeek tweaking a computer/Mixing desk while a DAT plays in the background".



Death in Vegas live shows are really great, but quite different (there's a live band). I've read in an interview Tom pointing out it is stupid to have a live band "covering" music that was done electronically, and at that time I tended to agree (Massive Attack was quite disappointing for that matter), but DiV actually use rock session musicians in their album (except the last one) so that's less of a betrayal. But once again, you've got Holmes and Fearless in the background, doing obscure things....



I agree with cat about the Hey boy Hey girl footage. it doesn't seem this tune involves a lot of effort, uh. But well, they need their hands to cheer the crowd, isn't it? There's also a good amount of MPC "note repeat" triggering by Tom... (basically, it triggers a roll -Snare drum on HBHG- just by pressing a pad. Then Tom tweaks the note variation slider, changing the filter...)

TryptaJunk Escribi�:

I've got the D.A.F.T. DVD and there's a live footage of Rolling and Scratching, basically their method is quite similar. I don't have the DVD anywhere near me, but I should dig it to check out what is the main sequencer.......................



...........I agree with cat about the Hey boy Hey girl footage. it doesn't seem this tune involves a lot of effort, uh. But well, they need their hands to cheer the crowd, isn't it? There's also a good amount of MPC "note repeat" triggering by Tom... (basically, it triggers a roll -Snare drum on HBHG- just by pressing a pad. Then Tom tweaks the note variation slider, changing the filter...)

Ive got the D.A.F.T dvd and its really hard to see what there doing as its do dark, but there looks to be a 303 in there.



I love HBHG its a brillant tune, i find though in a chems set if they open with it there doesnt seem to be much variation from surrender, but if its played in the middle of the set the intro is much better because of the way its mixed in. Does anyone know what i mean.

ACIDCHILDREN Escribi�:

I love HBHG its a brillant tune, i find though in a chems set if they open with it there doesnt seem to be much variation from surrender, but if its played in the middle of the set the intro is much better because of the way its mixed in. Does anyone know what i mean.

totally! on the last tour, last summer, they went back to opening the set with HBHG, and I was quite disappointnted becaus Come with Us was a Massive track open the gig, with, in my opinion. Plus you're right about hte mixing when it arrives in the middle of the set... the anticipation builds up...

TryptaJunk Escribi�:

totally! on the last tour, last summer, they went back to opening the set with HBHG, and I was quite disappointnted becaus Come with Us was a Massive track open the gig, with, in my opinion. Plus you're right about hte mixing when it arrives in the middle of the set... the anticipation builds up...

Yeah CWU was a better start when they used it on that tour. I do think HBHG is best later on. Other than the beginging i dnt think HBHG is that different live, I like it when u here that screaming sound and then u know HBHG is coming shortyl before the 'duf duf duf hey boy', then ur staright in.

ACIDCHILDREN Escribi�:

TryptaJunk Escribi�:

totally! on the last tour, last summer, they went back to opening the set with HBHG, and I was quite disappointnted becaus Come with Us was a Massive track open the gig, with, in my opinion. Plus you're right about hte mixing when it arrives in the middle of the set... the anticipation builds up...

Yeah CWU was a better start when they used it on that tour. I do think HBHG is best later on. Other than the beginging i dnt think HBHG is that different live, I like it when u here that screaming sound and then u know HBHG is coming shortyl before the 'duf duf duf hey boy', then ur staright in.

in the chile set the last part of hbhg sounds more acid (the hey riff) quality, but i like more cwu as opener. and hbhg mixed in the body of the set.

we should definitely have a petition for this.

but otherwise, there is little live "playing"

I tend to disagree, For all of the tunes they play live I'm sure they could just "Push the Button" and sit back, but have you ever heard of a chems show that was exactly like any other? The improvisation of every song at every different show is thier playing, Maybe they don't play a guitar on stage but they sure as heck are being consumate musicians. Every piece of equipment is thier instrument, even and especially the mixing board. One of them pushes a button or twiddles a knob to change a parameter of a sequence they already have and the other one brings it in through the mixer.

Fidel Escribi�:

but otherwise, there is little live "playing"

I tend to disagree, For all of the tunes they play live I'm sure they could just "Push the Button" and sit back, but have you ever heard of a chems show that was exactly like any other? The improvisation of every song at every different show is thier playing, Maybe they don't play a guitar on stage but they sure as heck are being consumate musicians. Every piece of equipment is thier instrument, even and especially the mixing board. One of them pushes a button or twiddles a knob to change a parameter of a sequence they already have and the other one brings it in through the mixer.

I didn't mean it to ba a negative thing, I totally agree with you, but still, there is little playing in the sens of "generating notes on the fly", like playing synth riff, bassline or whatever. but, yeah, they do use the equipement as instruments, and result is quite impressive.

I'm going to cry, I live in F-tard land in the middle of F-tard nation (Oklahoma, US.) so I never get to hear the chems live. :'( No, I'll be allright, just give me some time...

stollen from this month mixmag.

:o Nice Sneaker,Thanks for posting it!!!

Sweet find, sneaker, thanks for posting.



It's cool to get a Tom n'Ed's eye view of the gear, and the basic breakdown of what does what onstage helps to understand what goes down live.

VERY COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!!!!!!



:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D



I LOVE THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS!!!

Sneaker! Way to post something awesome on my birthday! CHEERS!!! 8) :D

I feel so enlightened. Looks like few of those things are new this year which would explain why this years tour has had so much variation show by show. Also helped to see the isle of mtv show and see what they do when. Very cool and thanks for posting that!

Great post, Sneaks.



I feel happy that I knew a little bit about each of those pieces of equipment before reading the above. My day is now complete. *sigh*



I want a Future Retro 777. Accccciiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!



Heh. :D



*wishes Mixmag came out on time here* *wishes Mixmag was still good*

Actually, revisiting this thread.



Tom & Ed, if you ever decide to retire the Juno-106, it'd be an honour to take it off your hands (for money, sexual favours, sandwiches, etc., of course). I'll put it in a museum of Chemical artifacts which I will lovingly curate that will be located next door to Brixton Academy, or something like that.



[/obsessive fanboy]

Consumer Escribi�:

Sneaker! Way to post something awesome on my birthday! CHEERS!!! 8) :D

Well, I'll be damned for missing this tidbit.



Happy (belated) Birthday, Consumer!!!



I hope it was a good one! :)

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Consumer Escribi�:

Sneaker! Way to post something awesome on my birthday! CHEERS!!! 8) :D

Well, I'll be damned for missing this tidbit.



Happy (belated) Birthday, Consumer!!!



I hope it was a good one! :)

yeah ditto...



Happy belated BDAY Consumer



.....they should have a thing on here that should keep track of bdays