order from amazon.com...like i did.



copies produced in the US don't have it.



so now, i can play it on my computer and if you wanted a track, i could copy it for you!



fuck you, EMI!

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EMI have only themselves to blame for internet downloads. They continue to target people who download music every now and then whilst the real reason is because they continue to promote crap music, therefore people look elsewhere and download it. While I feel for any artists who are getting a bad deal out of downloads, I have no sympathy for record companies who have been ripping us off for years. Now that technology has caught up with them, people download stuff for free. And I don't blame them.

Meltphace has done nothing wrong, he has simply taken advantage of a loophole in the system! 8)

I personally think that although everyone enjoys something for nothing, yet *most* people would willingly shell out money to be entertained ie: cd's.

I see it all the time at work, people are increasingly agitated at the high cost of cd's. I think the fault lies not only with labels, but with middle men corporations that in turn charge these labels for advertising space in stores and elsewhere and that cost is passed along to the consumer. Many times folks can't justify spending $18.99 for a coujple songs they might enjoy only a couple times and that's it. $18.99 for a cd is a lot of money especially in tough economic times when people are scaling down frivolties so they can put food on the table. But one thing I have noticed, is that cd's priced at $9.99 or less sell like hotcakes - people will scoop up 4,5,6 at a time because they know they are getting quality and quantity, an allaround better deal. And if that $9.99 cd happens to be shit, well, it was only $9.99 not $20. I think if the costs of cd's are reasonably priced this reassures me that people are willing to promote artist support so long as the cost in doing so is fair.



Then you have labels like Universal who have dropped the prices of their cd's - good for them because they are likely to sell more volume, good for retail, and good for the consumer. It'll be interesting to see if this tactic is too little too late, and even more interesting to see if other labels are willing to follow suit.

I picked up my 2CD set in the UK, but there was no copy protection on it. German issues seem to have it, though.

Anyone want to get me the mp3's from the singles cd that came out recently? I do not want to bother ripping it myself the hard way.

If you're buying CD's when your squeezing money to pay for food, You've got your priorities in the wrong place. You cannot have what you want all the time and you have to sacrafise alot.

Well, no shit sherlock. ;)

When I got a promo copy of the singles, I wanted to make burn it over 2 cds with the normal/extended versions of the singles along with what was missing (I'm sure tom n ed would've done that if it didn't cost more for 2 cds). What I did was I found a software program that will rip copy controlled cds... of course like everything on the Internet, this cost $40. I sure as hell was not going to pay that much for a program that should be removed from the internet. So i found one of those registration crack which let me use the program for $0. I personally hate mp3s (on official music) and the excessive swapping of them and I would agree with what it says in the footnote of The Singles (which ironically you wont read when you download it): "Piracy is killing music." But I would also say the record companies had it coming when they were forcing people to pay shit loads of money, it is only reasonable that if the people get a chance to not have to pay that crazy amount of money (especially in other parts of the world, America isn't the worse) that they wont. This to me seems like an umprising of a repressed nation, only instead of a nation it's kids who are stuck in there room on their dorrito-stained computers for weeks on end, too fuckin lazy to get a part time-job to buy the real records (which of course isn't justified). The record companies need to lower the price of cds, and not from $19 to $18, because they're either going to get some money or no money and I think we can all agree the latter is worse for them. And I am still waiting for that shitty $13 check from the record companies for the hundreds of cds I've been over charged for.



But back around to where I started, there's a program that will rip copy controlled cds out there and also a crack for it. I think if you own the cd, you should be able to burn for personal use, but not for sharing, it's low and pathetic when people brag they have 300 cds in which they only have 17 that are not cd-rs, so since the copy-protected program is hurting the music industry, I say don't pay a cent.

Well, most users who would be affected can bypass the system entirely by holding the shift key every time they insert the CD.



P.

I own over 400 CD's.

And only one of them is a burned CD.

It's a DEMO cd from a local band ( www.thepalookas.com )

Check them out !!!!!!!!!!! great SKA/PUNK band.



But back to topic.

I think people who buy CD's should be allowed

to copy CD's for there own use.

But if you download music or buy copied cd's you're a stupid FUCK.

(Sorry for my strong language.)

People who do copy or download music destroy the music industry.

New bands don't get the promotion that they need.

Because of the record labels not having the money.

And new kinds of music aren't able to reach a bigger audience because record labels can't give this music attention.



I know that the prices for the official releases (CD and vinyl) are very high.

And that the major record companies aren't always very nice people.

And that those companies are giving a lot of wrong acts (can't call them artists) to much attention.



But if you keep burning and buying illegal CD's.

In a few years there will be no more progression in music.



Thanks for your attention.

I have Annie Lennox's album "Bare", it has copy protection and caused problerms on my PC, and the copy has ticking sounds all the way through it. I was copying it for my own use (1 in car, 1 in home) it screwed my disk drives and took me about 2 weeks to suss out how to sort it. :-//



And yes, Gundhi, I thought the language used was completely unnecessary. 8O

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Stupid Boy!!!

Annie Lennox is totally different to The Chemical Brothers, but then I like many different types of music, for many different reasons. ;-)

Dunno about Copy Control... I experimented with Hail to the Thief CD, just put it to the computer's cd player and Goldwave ripped the songs of it, no problem. I have autorun disabled so that might have something to do with it. But the basic argument is that if your normal cd player can play these cds, so can your computer. All copy protections work by throwing in some nasty code that our beloved Windows will detect and will also prevent us from using our cd. No wonder that unix users have gotten away with it so well. So because all these protections work the way they do, they can be bypassed by bypassing the nasty code. I guess.



I'm not into burning CDs (unless the music is my own stuff :D ). I used to be, I thought that some albums are good enough to buy and some are good enough to get elsewhere. Nowadays I only listen to albums that are good enough to buy.

OSX/Unix user here: works for me. :)