inchemwetrust, on 17 December 2010 - 07:13 AM, said:

Happens from time to time, not really often.

inchemwetrust, on 17 December 2010 - 07:13 AM, said:

No problem

inchemwetrust, on 17 December 2010 - 07:13 AM, said:

Closer. Or was it a general question? In general i would say CWU is a very good opener.

I think he meant : if they played CWU, would it be better as the show opener or as the encore ?
IMO it would be an awesome encore "They're coming back..." but they should play the whole track, not only the vocal like they did in 2008.

There are a lot of tracks which could be good openers.

ThePumisher, on 15 December 2010 - 07:27 PM, said:

you are... such a brothers! Thanks /hug

ThePumisher, on 17 December 2010 - 03:07 PM, said:

Found this on YouTube, remember seeing it a while ago, opener it was.. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Iy1vwB8zlpc

And then goes onto Galvanize at the end of this.. http://www.youtube.c...20BD946&index=4

WeAreTheNight, on 18 December 2010 - 01:52 AM, said:

Love that one! It would be perfect if they could just add the acid synth on galvanize =)

:!: Text Wall Alert! :!:
I'd really prefer Come With Us as an intro (as can be seen here, as above, but with the full transition into Galvanize).
And that's the springboard for my ultimate setlist. It incorporates everything we know for sure is in there, so it's at least ostensibly realistic. (By the way, I am absolutely loving the fact that Don't Think in here is now an ostensibly realistic addition!)

So, it starts out with the Tomorrow Never Knows cover as an intro like they've been doing for a while. Then it would get swept away in that wash of descending synth noises they use to signal the beginning of the show. The spacey sound effects of Come With Us arise out of this and the show begins with a rousing yell of "they're coming back!". At the end, like the video I linked to, it segues into Galvanize. The show continues into Another World as usual, but when it comes to this astounding series of synth arcs, as further confirmation that it's this tour's Burst Generator, it goes into Do It Again instead. They get the crowd going with We Are The Night's big single, and when it comes to a close, return to Further, with the chants of "do it again" giving way to Dissolve. After blowing the audience's minds away with that slice of audio psychedelia, they keep going into the monstrous Horse Power. The energy doesn't let up as they go right from that one into my personal piece of Chemical heaven, Don't Think (have I mentioned how much I love the fact that this one is joining the setlist?). The Champi-pleasing doesn't let up, and as they reach the point where it would go to the "After After Sunglasses" section, the Snooprah siren begins to play and you hear a voice saying "This chemical's good, This chemical's bad". Why is this so pleasing? Because instead of Under The Influence, it leads into All Rights Reversed, a song they only hinted at during the 2010 leg! This dies away, as before, into Out Of Control. Like on the 2010 leg, this is followed by perennial favorite Setting Sun. Then they use the It Doesn't Matter Transition, not to go into Saturate (yet), but for the same purpose it was used on the WATN tour... going into Star Guitar! The first half of the set drifts away on a calm rave piano and gentle beams of light as the song begins to slow down to nothing but a warm breeze of pure synth happiness (don't believe me? see for yourself here).
The second half of the show starts off with a bang, as the rising synth tones we're all so familiar with (if you aren't, just watch the ending of that Star Guitar video) is suddenly accompanied by the low hum of a Shepard Tone... that then gets its own accompaniment from a Baba O'Riley-esque synth line... see where I'm going here? Yes, it explodes into Escape Velocity. And it is awesome. But it can't last forever, and as that Baba O'Riley lines fades away, the drum track from K+D+B comes in, and we're treated to it, along with those little bits of Hold Tight London they used on the 2010 leg. I'd love it if they could use the vocals, if possible. When that dies away, the EBW6 drums begin to play, and I finally work Saturate in here. Of course, it's not complete if it isn't followed by Believe! If everyone's eardrums are still intact after that one, they'll get the surprise of their life... after the teapot explodes and the cowbell comes in, behold! Hoops! This is another one that I'm really glad to have back - you really can't go wrong with it. And once that gem is done, we get the awesome transition into The Golden Path mentioned above. Then, as per the norm, the Elektrobnk Beats come in. I wish I could say that they're followed by the full song, but honestly, I've kind of given up hope on that. It would be awesome, but there's no way they'd do it after all these years (though I'd love to be proven wrong!). Besides, there's something much more pressing on the horizon... a fly-buzz drone suddenly appears over the drums, and so begins the old standby Hey Boy, Hey Girl (I bet you were wondering what I did with that)! Then, as a throwback to the Come With Us tour, they revive a timeless transition... a rather psychedelic sound takes over all but that one rising synth from HBHG, and the whole thing switches over to the key of C to mark the triumphant return of... The Test! Oh, what a wonderful day it'll be when they finally bring this one back! Of course, it's hard to follow a number like that one up, so the mantra of "did I pass the acid test?" gives way to a grating, practically grinding-gear noise and the crowd gets ready for the encore.
It opens up with the Silver Drizzle Transition, essentially that trippy vocal noise that opened up Silver Drizzle on loop (as seen here). Then things get a little out of the ordinary: the familiar synth from Got Glint? starts up, and those who know it in the audience gasp at its revival. Now, I haven't gone insane. It would just take the place of Leave Home in the encore - about a minute's worth of Got Glint. Then, in the section with the "black skins - white skins - brown skins - yellow skins" vocoder, we get the transition with the "come on y'all let's rock the *whistle sound*" vocal, and then Got Glint dies away and that's all there is. Then we get that noise that sounds sort of like a scratching vinyl- and then- and then- "Back with another one of those Block Rockin' Beats"! The bassline comes in and the whole place goes off. It ends like here, with the Leave Home "terror drums" and a chop-up of the bassline leading to its transformation into an unrecognizable, epic noise, accompanied by laser lights washing over the crowd. It dies away into a loop of the intro to the album version of BRB (as seen here), and we get into the spacier part of the encore. All of a sudden there's a burst of synth noise, followed by a descending tone, then another burst of synth noise, then another descending tone, then a lightly-strummed guitar, and- oh, it's Wonders Of The Deep. Hard to get spacier than that. Everyone is blissed-out by this track, and when it reaches that spiraling synth at the end, it all fades into some quiet noises and some swirling vocals ("most people don't even know who Timothy Leary is") a la this. Then an oriental string line comes in and we finish of with the glory that is The Sunshine Underground. Ideally, the Reel would be the best closer, but TSU is an excellent set-closer and, you know, is actually on the setlist for this tour. The crowd gets one final, 9-minute opportunity to dance themselves silly, and then the song devolves into a cacophony of bleeps and bloops as the message "LOVE IS ALL" shows up on the screen, reminding us to fall in love (because there's nothing else).
...Phew. Glad that's over. Also, let it be known that I have never been to a Chemical Brothers concert. This is all just based on the inordinate amount of recordings I've listened to. Have pity on me.
In summation, here's the whole "dream setlist":

First Half
Come With Us (if only a pipe dream)
Galvanize
Another World
Do It Again
Dissolve
Horse Power
Don’t Think
Chemicals Are Good/Bad Transition
All Rights Reversed
Out Of Control
Setting Sun
It Doesn’t Matter Transition
Star Guitar

Second Half
Escape Velocity
K+D+B (w/ Hold Tight London)
Saturate
Believe
Hoops
The Golden Path
Elektrobank Beats
Hey Boy, Hey Girl
The Test(!)

Encore
Silver Drizzle Transition
Got Glint?
Block Rockin’ Beats
Wonders Of The Deep
The Sunshine Underground (or The Private Psychedelic Reel, if they would be so kind)

WeAreTheNight, on 18 December 2010 - 01:52 AM, said:

yeah, i remember this video. was the only WATN show they play CWU as an opnener. pure awesomeness. nice reaction from out of the crowd at 1:00 when the head appears.

thy for posting the video with the CWU > galvanize transition. was wondering all the time, how they managed it. our boys did a good job.

i think CWU works very well as an opener!

BTW: I enjoyed your words, champiness! Like a theoretical chems gig! n1ce1

Hoops into that awesome golden path version (watching their liveset from 02 cologne a lot) would be my private psychedelic reel (like the hold tight london vocal sample in dissolve).

Agree with most of your dream set list, BUT:

Don't Think: i want the second half from that! 10 minutes if possible or till my ears are bleeding. that dirty synth line is pure chemical heaven for me.

ARR: saw it twice in a live set. i would prefer their edit with the test vocals and bit's from The Big Jump (if so, it makes the test as whole impossible so they should do their fight the drabs rmx, which rocks better). I think the original ARR doesn't work that well live (anyway it's a massive song).

Saturate: Can live without it (don't beat me, but i think it's a way too overrated but of course works perfect with believe which is a must live chem track).

HBHG: kill the holy cow and don't do it again.

Opener: If it isn't CWU or Galvanize, i think Get Yourself High can do the job.

Surface to Air: no love for this one? maybe before Escape Velocity? (When Saturate getting kicked out)

Thanks! As for your comments:

brother_ging, on 18 December 2010 - 01:58 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure they play the Fight The Drabs mix when they do ARR live. If not, they certainly play an extra-insane version of the original.
You're really not a fan of Saturate or HBHG? Admittedly neither are exactly the best songs in their repertoire but HBHG really gets things going and is also, you know, one of their biggest hits ever. And Saturate is practically vital for the presence of Believe - they go together like PB&J!
As for Surface To Air - I agree with you, it's one of their best. But I also had Wonders in there, and the two sound too much alike to play both.

brother_ging, on 18 December 2010 - 07:58 PM, said:

I love Surface To Air but I think Wonders Of The Deep or Dissolve could easily replace it, since they are very similar to it.

Champiness, on 19 December 2010 - 12:32 AM, said:

Totally agreed !

hm, saturate/EBW8 for me was insane when i saw it for the first time live (not seen any youtube video before). it's like watching a movie which only works for it's ending (the surprise. in the case of saturate, the expolding balls). For first timers it's an insane experience, but for me "it's soooo 2007" (on WATN saturate often was my personal skip track because of it's radio edit, so maybe that's why). But i agree, saturate&believe are like salt&pepper.

i'm thinking of another track before believe....horse power maybe? could work well. just put a galaxy bounce edit or my elastic eye between dissolve and don't think (dubstepish elastic eye into the second part of don't think would be epic).

stand off between STA and WOTD? i say Pills. Amazing live track (and would fit good into TSU me think).

HBHG: i know, they can never kick that one off from their setlist. too many "booooo-s" from the geezers, LOLZ. it's a stadium rave anthem (maybe THE stadium rave anthem)

Champiness, on 18 December 2010 - 08:57 AM, said:

Shit! Iv'e never heard of a 'dream' show in essay form! Well Written!

brother_ging, on 18 December 2010 - 10:26 AM, said:

Tom and Ed just written it in the Live '2011' stone if you ask me!

brother_ging, on 18 December 2010 - 05:01 PM, said:

It's a keeper. It has that crowd chant and gives of alot of good energy!


I think most of us agree (MAYBE) on....

The intro: TNK --> CWU --> Galvanize --> Another World....

and somewhere these songs will be played in order: Saturate --> Believe...

and somewhere these songs will be played in order: Escape Velocity --> KDB

and of course we want TPPR!

Bloke's list

Intro (Tomorrow Never Knows and a little bit of Snow, but not the whole track)
Horse Power (really, it would be a great opener)
Hey Boy Hey Girl
Three Little Birdies Down Beats
Life Is Sweet (Remix 1)
It Began In Afrika
Swastika Eyes (remix) + Enjoyed
Swoon
Dissolve
Hoops/EBW 6
Flashback
Saturate
Believe
Don't Think (just the first part of the track)
Midnight Madness
Acid Children vocal
The Test
Come With Us
Leave Home
Block Rockin' Beats
K + D + B
Escape Velocity
The Private Psychedelic Reel (for the win !)

Inchem's List

Come With Us---ADDED
Galvanize
Another World
Do It Again
Hey Boy Hey Girl----ADDED
Horse Power
Star Guitar
Out Of Control----ADDED
Hoops
Saturate----ADDED
Belive----( I CHANGED MY MIND
KDB
Escape Velocity
Don't Think
Block Rockin Beats
TPPR----ADDE

Champs List

Come With Us (if only a pipe dream)
Galvanize
Another World
Do It Again
Dissolve
Horse Power
Don’t Think
Chemicals Are Good/Bad Transition
All Rights Reversed
Out Of Control
Setting Sun
It Doesn’t Matter Transition
Star Guitar
Escape Velocity
K+D+B (w/ Hold Tight London)
Saturate
Believe
Hoops
The Golden Path
Elektrobank Beats
Hey Boy, Hey Girl
The Test(!)
Silver Drizzle Transition
Got Glint?
Block Rockin’ Beats
Wonders Of The Deep
The Sunshine Underground (or The Private Psychedelic Reel, if they would be so kind)

As for the rest of the songs, We'll have to see where they land.....or not even show up in 2011!

inchemwetrust, on 19 December 2010 - 04:11 AM, said:

i'm not familiar with another world after galvanize. this two tracks transport something too different. galvanize starts this whole thing ("don't hold back" sick synth, a little dark, about 100 bpm) and then another world which is dreamy, cloudy, and faster than galvanize. as a dj i would never ever mix this two tracks together at the beginning of a set, two too different feelings. if they play another world (not a must for me if star guitar is on board) i see it near the end. during watn tour they did a good job with galvanize into burst generator (also different bpms but well done arranged).

ergo: after galvanize i see one of their new tracks.

my must haves off

- from Further: EV, KDB, Dissolve, HP, Don't Think (no AW or swoon for me)
- from BH: MM
- from WATN: WATN, Pills, DIA, AMMC
- from PTB: STA, Galv
- from S93-03: GYH, golden path
- from CWU: everything and TESTESTESTESTESTEST
- from Surrender: OOC, TSU
- from DYOH: BRB, Elektrobank, TPPR
- from EPD: LH, Three little...
- FROM EBW's: 1,3,5,6,7,!!!9!!!

and all their new stuff (of corrrrseh)

brother_ging, on 18 December 2010 - 07:43 PM, said:

Another World after galvanize was dropped perfectly! Couldn't be happier!



Galvanize and burst generator were good combos in the WATN tour. They were momentum builders for the next tracks...DIA and HBHG!

Since DIA is coming back, they might as well stick HBHG next to it!

my dream list:

Come With Us / Get Yourself High
Galvanize
NEW TRACK
Dissolve
Galaxy Bounce edit (or my Elastic Eye)
Don’t Think (Part 2 ftw)
Chemicals Are Good/Bad Transition
NEW TRACK / MM
Out Of Control
Setting Sun
bits of EBW1&3
Star Guitar

K+D+B edit
Surface to Air
Escape Velocity
Horse Power / EBW9
Believe
Hoops
WATN
The Golden Path
Elektrobank Beats
Acid Children edit
The Test

Silver Drizzle Transition
LH Vocals / (or DIA Vocals)
Block Rockin’ Beats
Three little...edit
AMMC
Pills edit
The Sunshine Underground / TPPR

inchemwetrust, on 19 December 2010 - 04:58 AM, said:

hm, no, no, doesn't work for me (and my ears). totally different mood. AV kills galv energy. this cut is too aprupt even the sick and awesome synth line right before AV drops cannot handle this disharmonic moment (think they did the synthsqeeze because of this "kind a problem"). AV is in good position on further but not in their live. in general AV is very difficult to mix. very DJ unfriendly track hehe.

brother_ging, on 19 December 2010 - 02:01 AM, said:

This is blasphemy, you must die, blah blah blah...

inchemwetrust, on 19 December 2010 - 04:11 AM, said:

I don't think that Galvanize and Another World are necessary. CWU could be a good opener (but it could also be a good encore opener) so there's no need to have Galvanize just after.

brother_ging, on 19 December 2010 - 05:17 AM, said:

I don't agree on that, I think it kills the awesome energy of Escape Velocity, like Swoon does for Horse Power.

brother_ging, on 18 December 2010 - 11:17 PM, said:

Another Vorld?

mh, yes, writing my phd thesis besides. sorry! of course it's another WWWorld

Holy moly Champi - nicely written, I can't wait to read your first review of a Chems gig!!

As for what I want and/or expect from 2011 - the usual "I trust Tom and Ed know what they are doing so I'll just sit back and be surprised" whirly response, hehe.

I love reading the theories and wants and don't wants, though. However I'm not sure how I feel about killing off Hey Boy Hey Girl or if it would be the best idea given the Chems are going to be playing lots of festivals. New tours means forging new ground and all of that, but hey Boy Hey Girl is such a anthem and a staple it would be a shame to omit it completely. I may sound like a geezer or whatever but my argument for keeping it in is based on The Chems making the festival rounds where there's people from all walks of life and musical interests milling about. Part of the crowd draw is reeling in not just the hard core dorks like us but drawing in the casual fan or the passersby. A passerby might not immediately recognize Another World, Dissolve or Hoops as instantly recognizable as The Chemical Brothers. But chances are they've heard Hey Boy Hey Girl in some capacity over the last 10+ years and associate it with The Chemical Brothers, and might associate that song with seeing the Chems the last time they went to <insert festival here> which will in turn keep them tuned in and paying attention to the rest of their set. But that's just my 2 pennies worth. I think 2011 is going to be exciting for the Chems and the fans, and I'm totally jazzed about that!