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Posted 15 March 2007 - 3:13 AM
I'd say that I'm both impressed and disillusioned by the sampling usage.
Robot Rock and Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger basically are a whole lot of not Daft Punk, but others I thought the sampling worked out great. And HBFS still rocks my world nonetheless.
I remain a huge fan, either way.
Robot Rock and Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger basically are a whole lot of not Daft Punk, but others I thought the sampling worked out great. And HBFS still rocks my world nonetheless.
I remain a huge fan, either way.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 4:35 AM
where in the hell have you been???
tom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:
This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 5:21 AM
Woah........ that's... really shit. I can understand looping 1 bar of a drum loop and layering it with other stuff, but literally looping a a whole couple of bars of a song, riff and all, letting it run for 3 mins at a time and going "robot rock" over the top... jesus.
They've done some amazing unsampled stuff... or at least no one has discovered the original tracks yet 8O
They've done some amazing unsampled stuff... or at least no one has discovered the original tracks yet 8O
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 7:55 PM
"Hey, Those Guys Are Big Fat Phonies! Everyone Look At The Big Fat Phonies" (family guy quote)
Guess in comparison to the chems they arean't that impressive in their musical talents. And I though they owned a guitar, nope just a record with one on it. Still like the music, just not going to give them much credit. Fatboy Slim said there's very little music of his going on records so the same speaks for others (but at least Fatboy can do an interview with out a bag on his head)
Guess in comparison to the chems they arean't that impressive in their musical talents. And I though they owned a guitar, nope just a record with one on it. Still like the music, just not going to give them much credit. Fatboy Slim said there's very little music of his going on records so the same speaks for others (but at least Fatboy can do an interview with out a bag on his head)
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 8:35 PM
big deal...they reinterpret the songs, sometimes the difference is big, sometimes its minimal. they're consistent at what they sample/"rip off" and don't come off as having big egos or making any big statements. there's way bigger fish to fry than calling daft punk (or any other electronic musician) a hack for borrowing from existing songs. everyone's guilty.
do you dislike rap too? or the idea of a dj set being a piece of music on its own?
do you dislike rap too? or the idea of a dj set being a piece of music on its own?
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 9:23 PM
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big deal...they reinterpret the songs, sometimes the difference is big, sometimes its minimal. they're consistent at what they sample/"rip off" and don't come off as having big egos or making any big statements. there's way bigger fish to fry than calling daft punk (or any other electronic musician) a hack for borrowing from existing songs. everyone's guilty.
do you dislike rap too? or the idea of a dj set being a piece of music on its own?
Are you aiming this at me? I hope for your sake you're not.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 10:22 PM
DJ Shadow's first full-length work, Endtroducing....., was released in late 1996 to immense critical acclaim. Endtroducing would make the Guinness World Records book for "First Completely Sampled Album" in 2001. The only piece of kit Shadow used to produce the album is the AKAI MPC60 12bit sampling drum machine.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 10:24 PM
i think that was aimed at me. for me it's that I expect there to be several samples from different sources, not just one song's drums, guitar, synth, and bass. I think that's when sampling becomes creative (see SLIPVIN's last post^^^), when you can take several songs produced thousands of miles away over several decades and find harmony in them... i really dig daft punk, but guess when i originally heard a few of the new songs (not all) i though it was all them playing, didn't even know they were big samplers. guess i was shocks, the quote was a joke too, so if you bugged by what i said it was not intended at insulting daft punk as much as it was as making a joke.
but, they do kinda come off as big egos but not in an escentric way. if you look at much older posts on this forum you'll see that they were selling their own brand of coffee tables. plus there are people who hate daft punk a looooooot more than me on this board (chem'd up?), i'll still listen to their albums afterwards.
but, they do kinda come off as big egos but not in an escentric way. if you look at much older posts on this forum you'll see that they were selling their own brand of coffee tables. plus there are people who hate daft punk a looooooot more than me on this board (chem'd up?), i'll still listen to their albums afterwards.
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:34 AM
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I think that's when sampling becomes creative
Exactly. There's sampling, and there's ripping off. Grabbing a vocal snippet here, a drum loop here, a bass sample here and a piano sample there, then making it all work together is creative and interesting. Fatboy, Shadow, even Chems on some tracks do this. But grabbing 2 bars wholesale, looping them for 3 mins at a time and saying "robot rock" over the top is way too far.
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 1:47 AM
The Chems sampled quiet a lot too. What did you think when you learned that hey boy hey girl was ripped off a rap song ? Daft Punk (as well as the chems of say Fatboy Slim, who sampled an awful lot too) always used the samples wisely, except for Robot Rock that sucks ass and is imo complete plagiarism... They are very creative too and have, like the chems, a lot of different gear.
And Slipvin : Amon Tobin did a full-sample LP before DJ Shadow :P And there are probably other artists before him...
And Slipvin : Amon Tobin did a full-sample LP before DJ Shadow :P And there are probably other artists before him...
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 2:00 AM
since dj shadow is, well a dj, i expected it to be all samples. I think that applies for dj sets too: your trying to find stuff that fits in harmony or in other traits. impressive sampling i think is when they take a part of a song that you might miss hearing it, showing how good their ears are. vocal samples and drum samples i think are the best, they really capture something that happened or was said, i just thought it was shocking that robot rock is essentially a speeded up version of that song with an easy to make vocoder, song.
But I still love that song, just because someone tells you it's only one song or something, like say that food is bad for you (ie fast food), still doest necessarily change the feeling you get from it... We were having this conversation at my place the other night about food here.
But I still love that song, just because someone tells you it's only one song or something, like say that food is bad for you (ie fast food), still doest necessarily change the feeling you get from it... We were having this conversation at my place the other night about food here.
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 2:19 AM
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all musical respect now lost for them
full respect however still remains for exploiting the fans! its not even them on stage for half the gigs, and not even them producing the songs!
french wankers
Daft Punk rules.
Homework is a classic. Way better than, let's say... PTB.
Your hatred towards them is quite pathetic.