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Snippets of my remix ideas
#5
Posted 11 February 2005 - 2:05 PM
I did two remixes of Galvanize for the contest.
The "Never Was Live Mix" is actually really good. My first one sucks. Ho hum.
http://www.acidplane...s=336039&T=6586
The "Never Was Live Mix" is actually really good. My first one sucks. Ho hum.
http://www.acidplane...s=336039&T=6586
- @KngtRdr / @9GRecords / Got Glint?
#7
Posted 11 February 2005 - 10:46 PM
anType Escribi�:
Oh that's something different and interesting !! Technically it's a mashup, not a remix - but still... bloody great work
Thx. And only my 3rd attempt at a song in Acid, too. We'll see how I do.
I've been doing music since my ole' Amiga days (I miss Deluxe Music Construction Set. *sigh*)... and good old OctaMED.
- @KngtRdr / @9GRecords / Got Glint?
#9
Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:12 AM
Griffin, mate, first one was crap tbh, sounded like a midi track u mite get on on an old crapy website.
second one was better but didnt go anywhere.
luv the last one tho, very good.
AnType (and Guliver, sorry i dont really know you) you are a god!!! that mix is funking brilliant, id play that instead of the Abe Duqe mix (and probably will if u send me it...)
only thing id say, is make the samples a bit louder, the vocals and the strings. part from that, im beaming with apreciation for yor talent!
second one was better but didnt go anywhere.
luv the last one tho, very good.
AnType (and Guliver, sorry i dont really know you) you are a god!!! that mix is funking brilliant, id play that instead of the Abe Duqe mix (and probably will if u send me it...)
only thing id say, is make the samples a bit louder, the vocals and the strings. part from that, im beaming with apreciation for yor talent!
#11
Posted 13 February 2005 - 3:27 AM
Nice remix. I too prefer the instrumental to the vocal version, because the vocals don't seem to fit at all. You should do some choppy chop on 'em. They are also mixed in way too soft. Pump up the volume!
But spare yourself the efforts, puny mortals, as Slipvin's dub remix is obviously gonna be the Grand Prize winner, mwahahahaHAHAHA!!!!
Convince yourselves: Galvanize - Slipvin Dub
I rock.
But spare yourself the efforts, puny mortals, as Slipvin's dub remix is obviously gonna be the Grand Prize winner, mwahahahaHAHAHA!!!!
Convince yourselves: Galvanize - Slipvin Dub
I rock.
#14
Posted 13 February 2005 - 9:22 PM
Funny i thought the 3rd one was as shite as the others and yet that seems to have got a decent reaction but they are all 20 minutes of work which were discarded ho hum. Antype that tune is pretty rocking but the mix dosent seem very balanced the drums dominate too much.
#15
Posted 14 February 2005 - 12:19 AM
I have posted my mix in 2 threads already here's 3rd time ;_
Galvanize(reaction rmx)
http://www.mp3.com.a...ck.asp?id=97665
Galvanize(reaction rmx)
http://www.mp3.com.a...ck.asp?id=97665
#16
Posted 14 February 2005 - 12:44 AM
I finally got a chance to listen to the remixes posted here, so here is my opinion :
@griffin :
-I would agree that the first one is crap, just because it is the melody is exactly the same, exept not as good as the original, and because the distorded guitar indeed sound like cheap midi and doesn't fit with the melody. BUT obviously you must have a very good ear, if you manage to re write the exatc tune by yourself, so it is a good thing. I mean, if it was some kind of cover (as opposed to a remix) by a guitar band, i would stand up and applause (I mean, I'd love to see some rock band cover galvanize as an encore!!), but when you have the power of electronic music production it is a shame to just play the same melody with a different sound.
-the second one is not, IMO, as shitty as everyone seems to think. it seems you could have found this tune on Music For The Jilted Generation, but, hey, we are not in 1994 anymore, so it is not up to today's standards, but, from a producer approach, I have to say big up to you. I mean, if you did it without any premade loops, there obviously is a bunch of work here (synth patches, work on the reverb...). if you used loops and just sequenced the things, well, it's cheap.
-the third snippet is a bit too acid for my personal taste, but you obviously got something here. the chord change reminded me of Come Inside
@anType : that's good, mate, that's really good, but yeah, the vocal doesn't really fit. i mean, I think the whole galvanize remix thing is a bit tricky because everyone will judge your work against the orginal, and you won't win against Tom and Ed, obviously. therefore, everyone has a very precise idea of how it "should" sound, so when the vocal kics in, you're like "uh, something's wrong". But anyway, the instrumental is stong enough to stand by itself, it is good : you handsomely work your way around layers, drums, buildups, structure...(the intro is maybe a bit too long...). maybe you should, as Slipvin suggested, chop the vocal up, just use one or two sample, like a "don't hold back" cue thrown in here and there, and a "Galvanize!" on the downbeat when the "chorus" (part with the sample) kicks in.
@evermin : here again, evryone knows the original, so your version just seems strange because it is like the same, except arranged differently and at a higher tempo. It is tempting to do such things with Acid, as it has a very good time stretch algorithm and it is easy to chop the song up then put it back in a different order. But hey, if you pitch up the tempo to make it more dancefloor friendly you should at least make the effort to lie a decent Four on the floor BD underneath, don't you think? Well, it indeed sonds like a first attempt, but keep it going, throw in some orginial ideas, work your way around it. obviously you are good at making arrangements, so take advantage of it (this is something I lack : i can throw in some cool ideas, layering 8 bars loops, but when it comes to turn the thing into a proper tune, working the tension and release, i suck, so I kind a look up on you for managing to get a decent arrangement down, even if it is based only on the chem's sound)
@Slipvin : Cool. I didn't like the first few bars then I plugged in a decent pair of headphones and it took another dimension. you definitely got your own style on this one. it works pretty well with the chopped up samples and the drums retriggering, although the main synth arpeggio sounds a bit cheap to me: maybe it would have been better if you didn't keep it running almost all the way through, leaving parts without it would have made it more interesting. also, maybe it lacks a bit of tension/release in the structure (that's a thing I like in anType's tune), but, hey, it is a dub remix, so it is meant to be repetitive and hypnotic.
One more thing, it is easy to use and abuse the power of bass to make a track work, but think about the poor guy who will listen to your tune in his car or through laptop speakers, he might miss the point.
Overall, great work, everyone, keep it going. it is tricky to stand up against the chems, so maybe everyone would be better off using such talent to make original tracks and not remixes. once again, when I hear Q tip, i cannot help but think about the original and then the whole track sounds less interesting because I feel something's "wrong". I hope you see what I mean here.
@griffin :
-I would agree that the first one is crap, just because it is the melody is exactly the same, exept not as good as the original, and because the distorded guitar indeed sound like cheap midi and doesn't fit with the melody. BUT obviously you must have a very good ear, if you manage to re write the exatc tune by yourself, so it is a good thing. I mean, if it was some kind of cover (as opposed to a remix) by a guitar band, i would stand up and applause (I mean, I'd love to see some rock band cover galvanize as an encore!!), but when you have the power of electronic music production it is a shame to just play the same melody with a different sound.
-the second one is not, IMO, as shitty as everyone seems to think. it seems you could have found this tune on Music For The Jilted Generation, but, hey, we are not in 1994 anymore, so it is not up to today's standards, but, from a producer approach, I have to say big up to you. I mean, if you did it without any premade loops, there obviously is a bunch of work here (synth patches, work on the reverb...). if you used loops and just sequenced the things, well, it's cheap.
-the third snippet is a bit too acid for my personal taste, but you obviously got something here. the chord change reminded me of Come Inside
@anType : that's good, mate, that's really good, but yeah, the vocal doesn't really fit. i mean, I think the whole galvanize remix thing is a bit tricky because everyone will judge your work against the orginal, and you won't win against Tom and Ed, obviously. therefore, everyone has a very precise idea of how it "should" sound, so when the vocal kics in, you're like "uh, something's wrong". But anyway, the instrumental is stong enough to stand by itself, it is good : you handsomely work your way around layers, drums, buildups, structure...(the intro is maybe a bit too long...). maybe you should, as Slipvin suggested, chop the vocal up, just use one or two sample, like a "don't hold back" cue thrown in here and there, and a "Galvanize!" on the downbeat when the "chorus" (part with the sample) kicks in.
@evermin : here again, evryone knows the original, so your version just seems strange because it is like the same, except arranged differently and at a higher tempo. It is tempting to do such things with Acid, as it has a very good time stretch algorithm and it is easy to chop the song up then put it back in a different order. But hey, if you pitch up the tempo to make it more dancefloor friendly you should at least make the effort to lie a decent Four on the floor BD underneath, don't you think? Well, it indeed sonds like a first attempt, but keep it going, throw in some orginial ideas, work your way around it. obviously you are good at making arrangements, so take advantage of it (this is something I lack : i can throw in some cool ideas, layering 8 bars loops, but when it comes to turn the thing into a proper tune, working the tension and release, i suck, so I kind a look up on you for managing to get a decent arrangement down, even if it is based only on the chem's sound)
@Slipvin : Cool. I didn't like the first few bars then I plugged in a decent pair of headphones and it took another dimension. you definitely got your own style on this one. it works pretty well with the chopped up samples and the drums retriggering, although the main synth arpeggio sounds a bit cheap to me: maybe it would have been better if you didn't keep it running almost all the way through, leaving parts without it would have made it more interesting. also, maybe it lacks a bit of tension/release in the structure (that's a thing I like in anType's tune), but, hey, it is a dub remix, so it is meant to be repetitive and hypnotic.
One more thing, it is easy to use and abuse the power of bass to make a track work, but think about the poor guy who will listen to your tune in his car or through laptop speakers, he might miss the point.
Overall, great work, everyone, keep it going. it is tricky to stand up against the chems, so maybe everyone would be better off using such talent to make original tracks and not remixes. once again, when I hear Q tip, i cannot help but think about the original and then the whole track sounds less interesting because I feel something's "wrong". I hope you see what I mean here.
#18
Posted 14 February 2005 - 12:59 AM
jcm Escribi�:
do you have a remix? sure that'd sound great ;-) honestly:)
No, I'm not that interested in this whole Galvanize remix thingie, for the reason I've stated : if the listener knows the original, you're fucked. It is probably because of the vocals : I do not get that feeling with instrumental remixes (just a loop here, a sample there).
I mean, one has to be suicidal to try to remix the chems. Even Fatboy Slim failed with come with us. the sasha remix of out of control is the only one I find remotely listenable, probably because it is some dancefloor thing turned into some even more dancefloor thing...
#19
Posted 14 February 2005 - 1:04 AM
I know what I've stated here seems wrong as I've made an asleep from day remix, but, hey, I was actually *asked* to do this thing, for some kind of musical play (that I ended up directing) and I was really not up for it, saying "uuuh, This is such a great song, ou cannot make something better out of it, I will fuck it up badly", but it ended up being decent, mostly because it turned this slow ballad into some uplifiting psychedelic housy tune. Remixes, just like covers, are different when you deliberately try to transpose the song into a different style (hence the rock cover idea I mentioned above). This is why the dub remix by slipvin stands out (althoug my favorite is probably anType's), but working with vocal is really hellish, because they are so full of meaning and memories of the original.