Interview
The Chemical Brothers
Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:16:17
The pioneers of Big Beat discuss their latest collaborations, festival freedom and how Americans still love those "Block Rockin' Beats"
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Electronic and house music once lived on the American fringe, but the door to the mainstream was kicked open by the crossover success of The Chemical Brothers, Moby, Fatboy Slim and The Prodigy in the mid-to-late 1990s. A decade later, it seems perfectly normal to hear a Chemical Brothers song ("Galvanize") anchoring an ad campaign for Budweiser.
Earlier this year, the Brothers—Ed Simons and Tom Rowlands released We Are The Night, their eclectic sixth album that featured throwback party-starters alongside psychedelic electronica and one-off bits of weirdness like Fatlip's preposterously catchy old-school rap on "The Salmon Dance."
Simons and Rowlands hit Los Angeles to headline (along with Paul Van Dyk and Carl Cox) the city's annual Nocturnal Festival, in which glowstick boys and glitter girls frolic outdoors beneath the downtown skyline. Prior to setting off to prove the claim made by their album title, they sat down with ARTISTdirect in their bungalow at the storied Chateau Marmont to talk about their career, their range of collaborators and the recipe for a memorable festival.
When it comes time to start a new album, are you starting with a clean slate, or do you have snippets and instrumentals that you go back and revisit?
TOM ROWLANDS: There are always bits of music that haven't quite reached their full potential yet. Something like "Hey Boy, Hey Girl" was around for years in various sorts of forms until we thought we had finished it. It was the same with this record—there were a couple of tracks that were things that we had started but didn't get to a point where we were happy with it.
How do you know when an idea just isn't working and you’re going to table it forever, as opposed to archiving it so you can come back to it?
TOM ROWLANDS: Sometimes you just have an idea—you're working on something and it strikes you, "Hang on, why don't we take that bit and do something completely different?" It's like a puzzle you're trying to work out—you know there's something good in this idea, but it's not communicating. You're drawn back to those things, and when you come into the studio, the songs you load up on your computer are the ones that have that quality to them.
Is there a finite beginning to when an album "starts" and when you know it's complete?
ED SIMONS: When we actually finish an album, it can be miles away from the album we thought we were making—particularly this record. There was a whole parallel record that we were making at one stage, but it came to be how it came to be. It just depends on how you're feeling about music at that given time. The music that we were working on still exists, though, and it will live to fight another day.
In the promotional interviews that accompanied the release of the album, you were talking about "Do It Again" and how you discovered that it has this sort of Jekyll-and-Hyde personality, depending on the setting in which it's played. Were you conscious of that dichotomy while you're putting the song together?
ED SIMONS: Say a song like "Block Rockin' Beats," which is kind of our biggest record here in America… That was a record made for us to play in nightclubs. At the time we made that, we were DJing every Saturday night in a club in London—which we've never done since or before. We had a residency at a club, and we wanted stuff to play—we were playing three hours every Saturday night. "Block Rockin' Beats" was something that was played at like four in the morning, but then it became something that can be played on KROQ. "Do It Again" is a record that's on the radio in the middle of the day and it's kind of jaunty and poppy. But we were playing the other day in Chicago and it brought out all the acidic quality to it—just being in Chicago did that. It exists in a different way. "Hey Boy, Hey Girl" is the same way. Particularly in England, these druggy club records can be on the radio in the middle of the day. That duality has always been interesting for us.
On the songs where you're feeding instrumentals to guest vocalists, how soon do you know who you're writing for?
ED SIMONS: It's very different every time. There are pieces that we feel like we want a vocal on, and then we rack our brains to think of someone. Very rarely do we approach someone and write music specifically for them. We were very keen to work with Willy Mason and Tom sent him something that he'd been working on, then [Mason] sent back a song he'd been working on. We took the song that he gave us and wrote some music back around that. But with Midlake, we sent them a pretty fully formed idea and they came back with a pretty fully formed vocal. Ali Love came in with sort of a sketch and an idea, and the three of us worked it out during the couple days he spent with us.
That's kind of our ideal collaboration—people coming in with an idea, and then the three of us—or whoever else is involved—producing and writing together. We had a great day with the Klaxons, who came in mid-tour on a Sunday, and we had a day to do it. It was great. It was fun. They didn't really have much when they came in, but by the end of the day we had this fully formed thing. They were very on it and very quick. That's the joy of collaborating. People debate how many vocalists we have and stuff like that, but it’s still fun for us to meet new people and have them in the studio. That makes for great records.
Are there songs that are obligatory in your setlists? Do you have to play "Block Rockin' Beats" when you come to the States?
TOM ROWLANDS: We haven't been playing it all summer, we didn't play it in England this whole tour. But we started playing it just before we came to America, and we play it in America—which is probably a wise thing. [laughs]
ED SIMONS: They're not quite obligatory—we feel lucky [to play them]. "Under the Influence" has pretty much been a staple, both DJing and live. It has a really amazing effect on a crowd of people. It was never a single, but it's almost the anthem of us playing live. But we're very intent on playing new tracks. A lot of it is made for playing live, it just fills a room. I think it's a trap if you've been around a long time to just rely on the old ones. We had a tour where we were playing a lot of old records, but now we kind of concentrate on the last two records.
You had another festival-heavy summer. Fans know what makes a festival work for them, but what makes it enticing for headliners?
TOM ROWLANDS: Catering. [laughs]
ED SIMONS: The scenery. Glastonbury. Coachella, as you know, is quite an amazing place to be. Some sort of spirit—a tradition, a sense of history feels good about a festival.
TOM ROWLANDS: It's best if people have to travel to it, if you have to step outside, if you have to make a commitment to go to it. There's no escape—you're here. That puts people in a different mindset. At Glastonbury, you see people step out of their normal lives and live completely differently.
There seems like there's a recurring theme with electronic artists that when the artist got into the music, it was something completely fresh—in some cases, even something illegal. But it's hard to imagine that being the case anymore. Electronic music and house music is much more a part of pop culture now. Does that automatically mean that it loses some of its luster?
ED SIMONS: There's nothing like something being new to make it good. House music has been going for 20 years, but still there's always a new set of kids coming, and it is new to them. And there's a new set of producers, and what they do feels new. In London, I think it's kind of less commercial than it was—it's kind of an underground thing again to go out and dance all night. But really, my clubbing days are pretty much over, so I'm the wrong man to talk to. But when we DJ clubs now, they're a zillion times better equipped with sound and lights. That all adds to the experience.
—Adam McKibbin
11.26.07
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