Okay, i have been making music for 5 years, and without sounding to big headed, or blowing my own trumpet etc etc, I feel i am very good....well, with what I have!



I only use Fruity Loops, and techno ejay!!!!!! I know I know, but I have made so fucked up sounds, I tweak samples to make them my own, create drumbs that are so unique that it excites me to the point where im listening to my music everyday!!



I need to know, what other music makers think...can you create something desirable, something new and fresh with what i've got?? I have had a good response from friends, who dont enjoy the dance/leftfield techno etc scene as much as I do, so in that respect, I suppose thats a good sign!



Im at a crossroads in my life, im afraid to expose my music to that many people because im not sure people would get it, especially coming from somerset where the most underground thing is The Prodigy!! Respect to those guys tho!



I need to do this for a living, i know i have the ear for it!!



Peace to all you guys and gals who keep this site going so strong, its nice to be back!



Love is all.



Vman

The best thing you can do at this point is post some links to your tunes in the POST YOUR MUSIC HERE thread stickied at the top of this forum. We've got some great and talented producers and musicians on the forum and many others who are great music fans with a trained ear and good taste. Plus, we've got Slipvin ( X-D ).



Otherwise, look for other sites about music creation and get your tunes out there. The more constructive criticism you can receive from people who know what they're talking about (from songwriting, production, listening, and clubbing perspectives), the better. You won't grow unless you're willing to listen to a bit of criticism.



While the tools you're working with do seem a bit limited, who knows? Could be great, could be naff. Either way, post 'er up.



Good luck. And welcome back to the board.

Hi V Man, good to have you back as well. :) If I remember correctly, you were unable to see the Chems do their thang in the past, but were you able to check them out for the Push The Button tour?



Or is my memory failing me and I'm thinking of someone else entirely? ;)



Anyway, I think anyone with enough time, patience, motivation and desire can make lemondade out of lemons. Sure it's nice to have tons of gear to play with, but that's not always possible - I know for me my set up is barebones and very limited and I'm cool with that. I am happy with what I've been able to do with an old Yamaha keyboard, a computer and Reason 1.0. You should never say, "I can only do so much" because if music's your passion, then that mindset should not be an option. If you've got people asking what all gear you've got and you can say "just Fruity Loops and ejay" then I think you're doing well. It's not what you got, it's what you do with what you got that's the ticket.

until i hear some of your music, all i can say is good luck making it as a musician. Thats what i want to do. don't be shy to send through your music.

I would love to get into the music industry, but I haven't the time or the ambition at the moment. However, I occasionally read interviews with people such as Mylo who learned his craft while doing his PhD dissertation in philosophy or like Antonio Nunez, the ex-Liverpool footballer who acquired his law degree while training with Real Madrid. Makes me want to try a little bit harder. :D

you can have a good ear for electronic music and you can also make decent dance tracks but to stand out and get noticed by pros you need to be special and have a unique approach to your music. Everyone has the same software or hardware...its what you do with them that really matters. don't hold back and put your files on the net for us to listen. If this is really what you want to do then be 100% behind what you are doing.

I've been taken on flights of fanciful daydreams where I was the struggling musician for a living... It would be fun to do something like that, work for a living doing something where I can express myself fully. But I'm happy with doing it as a hobby. It's less like "work" that way!



The music industry can be a tough one to crack. Longevity is subject to everchanging and fickle tastes. Just working on the piss end of the industry in retail for so long, it makes you wonder about things like perfect timing, who's getting it right and wrong, who's gonna stick and who's gonna slide off the wall. It's a tough world out there.

I think we all had the daydreams of being the " Underground Musician that's doing phenamonal things " Hahahaha X-D And OFFCOURSE Tom and Ed will hear my music and say " FUCKING HELL MATE!" And spin my record at the next Glint.



But serious now - i never wrote anything else than tunes on my guitar. So no change for me X-D



V man , i understand youre shyness! I am very shy about other people hearing my songs or things i wrote. Because music is a very personal thing !!! But i think you came to a forum where people are encouraged and people get critics that you can actually do something with. I don't know anything about making electronic music - but i do know if i like a tune or not !! So post youre music in POST YOURE MUSIC HERE and we will all give it a listen ;)



Don't be shy !!

I completely understand the shyness. Actually saying "ah fuck I'll do it" when I submitted music for the forum project, man was my tummy upset for days!! I'm proud of what I've done but it's so hard for me to share it and I very rarely do. When I make music it's something I do for myself as a release, it's my time for me to see what I can do and get enjoyment from. I can take some criticism, and I'm my own worst critic - but exposing that side of you can be hard even in the comfort of friends and family - it can be raw and maybe bares a little too much... I think for me the hardest thing isn't so much a lack of confidence, but perhaps there's something 'in there' that I don't want people to see or hear. I can't put my finger on it as it's hard to explain. That's probably why I never pursued music making seriously! X-D



Speaking of pursuing something musical. stash's (ex) step-dad is this incredible guitarist and he's technically gifted, he's got a talent and a good ear and a lot of patience and he plays a few small local gigs here and there. He's been getting into this gypsy jazz music from the early 1900's, stuff like Django Reinhardt and I'm finding that it's really cool actually. Very different from my norm. Anyway, he's teaching me rhythm guitar (because this type of music's percussion *is* the rhythm guitar) since there are no drums present. It's a lot of fun and he's got a lot of faith I can pick this style up and endure (because I quickly learned it's not so much banging out the chords on the guitar, it's endurance you have to accrue to keep the rhythm which holds it all in place)... which means maybe eventually getting to play a couple of songs locally - although getting up in front of people is a whole n'other beast that terrifies me like you wouldn't believe...

V Man all I can add is that this place is very friendly when it comes to sharing our own tunes and refreshingly honest in response. 8)

Hi V Man, I've been working only with FruityLoops too for 2 years, and I think CSar wors with it too. Now I bought a drum machine and in the next year I'm planning on buying a master keyboard (dunno if it's the right term) and then later a Juno 106 :) I think you should do the same and buy some hardware, it's the rules of "evolution" :P

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

I would love to get into the music industry, but I haven't the time or the ambition at the moment. However, I occasionally read interviews with people such as Mylo who learned his craft while doing his PhD dissertation in philosophy or like Antonio Nunez, the ex-Liverpool footballer who acquired his law degree while training with Real Madrid. Makes me want to try a little bit harder. :D

A thing i should consider as well, i was a bit lazy in the past. I'm a bad student . . . :'( The motto should be: Harder, better, faster. A fact i'm talking to myself at the begnning of each semester but then . . . it dissipates in delight . . .

Ben_j Escribi�:

Hi V Man, I've been working only with FruityLoops too for 2 years, and I think CSar wors with it too. Now I bought a drum machine and in the next year I'm planning on buying a master keyboard (dunno if it's the right term) and then later a Juno 106 :) I think you should do the same and buy some hardware, it's the rules of "evolution" :P

Yeah i'm using it too. Not a bad tool for making music. The only thing i worked with in the past. Has some nice features and i think the best and easiest way to create beats with its step sequencer as far as i tried some demos of others . . . Reason is good as well but their damn demo don't allows you playing around for not more than 20 minutes...



I'm also looking for a midi keyboard with usb interface (can't conncet my ol' one) and maybe any other analog generators . . .



Hey V Man, post some of your tracks, i'd like to see how far you can go with Fruity Loops

Csar Escribi�:

I'm also looking for a midi keyboard with usb interface (can't conncet my ol' one) and maybe any other analog generators . . .

Take the E-MU Xboard 49 it's cheap and good !

do you use it in your productions and does it work well with fruity?

Hi V! Don't think we've met on here before!



U should def post some music up and get some of our responses - everyone here will have well trained ears (obviously!)



All the advice I can give is, don't be shy, and if u want to make it big do something different to what everyone else is doing/or whats in fashion right now! Take influences or samples from old lost records that most people haven't heard of. Keep yours ears open!



And if you are shit hot, post it on forums, put it on soulseek or limewire, give a CD of your music to DJs when your at clubs, heck if you're that good - send it to Annie Mac or Pete Tong or any of those dance radio DJs!



My boyfriend put a tune he made up onto soulseek and loads of people downloaded it! Then one night at Turnmills, just as we were leaving, we heard one of the DJs playing it in the backroom - It was nuts! Unfortunately that tune is kind of lost now but still it was sooo cool!



There's no point making music if its not gonna get heard!

Csar Escribi�:

do you use it in your productions and does it work well with fruity?

I don't have it yet but fruity is compatible with midi so it may work

to me it doesnt matter if youve written a tune using a couple of pencils, saucepans and rubber bands - a good tune is a good tune.



as long as u write it from the heart and are honest with your music, thats all that matters,

mippio Escribi�:

if youve written a tune using a couple of pencils, saucepans and rubber bands

It seems hard

Ben_j Escribi�:

mippio Escribi�:

if youve written a tune using a couple of pencils, saucepans and rubber bands

It seems hard

ahhh, youve clearly never heard of trevor's amazing kitchen tupperware and stationery band then ;)