Fatboy Slim + David Byrne and guest vocalists :
http://www.davidbyrn...here_lies_love/
Pretty very awfuly disapointy :/
Bring Big Beat back ffs !
Posted 18 March 2010 - 3:59 PM
Fatboy Slim + David Byrne and guest vocalists :
http://www.davidbyrn...here_lies_love/
Pretty very awfuly disapointy :/
Bring Big Beat back ffs !
Posted 18 March 2010 - 8:17 PM
Dissapointments:
1. Fatboy Slim doing a themed album about a love story. Somehow I don't think that this will be anywhere close to big beat, and even if Norman Cook attempts it, it's definately going to fail miserably.
2. Norman Cook is teaming up. Cook has developed a unique style of his own, on his own, and I think having someone else in that dynamic will throw a wrench in the gears. I don't know how anit-social/social Cook is, so I could be wrong.
3. I hate sappy music.
4. This is another sign that Fatboy Slim is slkow losing his awesomeness. I haven't heard Palookaville, but I've heard it's a major shift (a song with real vocals?!? Not vocal loops? On a Fatboy Slim song? This is just unacceptable!) for Cook. I'm starting to think that he just isn't as bada** as he once was, and this makes me think that he never will be.
Question answered, GLAKO?
Posted 18 March 2010 - 8:39 PM
Ah yeah David Byrne wrote this great book recently called Bicycle Diaries and mentioned the project, it's supposed to be about this dictator/ royalty in the Phillipines, hence the title, which I believe was on her grave. Sounds good on paper but who knows, I haven't heard it yet but Byrne's last album with Eno was great.
Additionally, I think it's important for people dissapointed with FBS to learn to distinguish that fine line between what defines an artist and what defines an album, and to take into consideration which one of those their expectations are built around.
Posted 18 March 2010 - 11:05 PM
I really enjoyed Fatboy. I heard a couple of songs off You've Come A Long Way Baby (thank you Pandora) yesterday and these rushy little waves of tender nostalgia washed over me.
As much as I like Fatboy I have no desire for him to resurrect big beat, go back to the way things were when Better Living Through Chemistry came out during the big beat heyday (it sounds dated anyway), nor do I expect him to hold on to these old formulas and styles that, unfortunately, have plagued him ever since he was criticized for the way Halfway Between the Gutter and Stars and Palookaville turned out.
I believe it was Tom and Ed that encouraged Fatboy to ring up other artists for collabs. We heard that shift take place when Halfway was released. He took that collab ball and ran with it. It was a freakin miracle Palookaville was released at all, given all the shit going on in Norman's private life that was made public. I think he made that album for him more than anyone else, and good on him for that.
Admittedly it took a while for Halfway and Palookaville to resonate with me. It was a shift in musical direction and it wasn't the usual Fatboy I was used to. In the end I enjoyed those records but they don't have a lot of long term playability with me. For what my opinion is worth, I think Norman Cook did the right thing and quit while he was ahead, so he could pursue other projects. I am pleased he is not a one-dimensional musician, or a one trick pony like everyone made him out to be during the pinnacle of his Fatboy career.
Anyway. I am unfamiliar with this project since I haven't been keeping up with Norman Cook like I should have. I like David Byrne, he's a musical genius in his own right. So I'll give this collaboration a chance.
Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:50 PM
I agree with everyone here. I believe that an artist can do whatever the hell he wants to and be able to get away with it. No artist should have to make an album based on what everyone else wants. That's part of the reason why I love The Chemical Brothers and hate Pitchfork Media (They gave WATN a 3.7/10 or something because it wasn't a big beat album. What the crap?). The Chemical Brothers are always mixing it up, staying fresh and I like that. And they always keep their roots.
But I still have every right to not like where an artist is going. I don't follow Fatboy like I do the Chemmies, and thus I have only heard You've Come A Long Way Baby, his live album Live from Brighton Beach, and a couple of his other singles. So maybe if I had knowledge of his work leading up to now I might not have been quite as surprised.
Anyway, judging only from what I've heard, a love themed album is just so odd coming from Cook. It's like he's just completely abandoning his roots and heading in a completely different musical direction. It would be like our guys Tom and Ed announcing they're doing orcestral music from now on. It's just not right.
As for collaborating, I suppose I haven't heard any of his partnered songs. So I made some pretty undereducated assumptions there.
So, I think I'll just stick with what I know of Fatboy Slim and suggest like androidgeoff that if he wants to reinvent himself, he really ought to get a different alias.
Edit: Listened to the featured track. Beats are good. Just the beats. Not as sappy as I expected, so maybe there is hope yet. I was thinking this was going to be like a romance-musical movie soundtrack album.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 1:10 AM
whitenoise stop moaning.
fatboy slim is not collaborating with david byrne on this album, norman cook is.
norman cook has has been in the music industry 25 years collaborating and working with many artists in many of his other bands. Collaborating is in his blood. look at his last album under the guise of the brighton port authority.
fatboy slim had lost his coolness very early into the new century. i think fatboy slim ran out of steam by the time gutters and stars came out. he sould have killed fatboy off there and then.
whats all this talk of big beat, its not still 1997 ya know.
sappy love song, abandoned his roots???? more like a return to his roots i think http://www.youtube.c...h?v=V6GXV0FNEeI .
it sounds like you think every thing norman cook does must be done with his fatboy slim hat on. if norman cook want to do a 'sappy' love album then good luck to him, if it makes him happy. if you dont want to listen to it then simply dont, it quite easy.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 2:12 AM
No, I say if it's not big beat, then take the Fatboy Slim hat off, Norman. Fatboy Slim is known as a big beat artist and Cook shouldn't use that pseudonym if he's going to be doing an album like this. Big beat, I sadly admit, is pretty much dead, and Fatboy should be buried beside it.
As I said before, an artist can do whatever he wants to and no one should try to stop him. I also said that I wasn't going to listen to it. And I also said that my comment on collaborations was uneducated, unresearched and wrong. I appologize.
So, sneakerbeater, you stop moaning, cause I already stated everything you just told me. I prefer the old Fatboy Slim side of Cook, and I don't like or agree with what he's doing now. That is my opinion. I can have an opinion perpendicular to yours, right?
I think Norman can do what ever he f**king feels like. Because he's Norman Cook. But Fatboy Slim is a name that does not belong in a genre such as this album, and he really shouldn't use that name anymore if it's not going to be like what me and the rest of the world are used to.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 6:03 AM
I think you, and a lot of other people, might be looking into the correlation between his "Big Beat" music and his alias Fatboy Slim, a little too much. He's simply a good DJ/producer with pretty decent mainstream success that peaked when "Big Beat" was hot. However, that doesn't necessarily mean his artist name Fatboy Slim coincides. As a matter of fact thats just what it is, an artist name. Nothing more, nothing less. And if he wants to use the title Fatboy Slim for this upcoming project, and future projects that doesn't relate to his earlier work, so be it.
Posted 20 March 2010 - 3:52 PM
hmmm.. i hoped that fatboy slim would make another dancefloor friendly album.. his beats are one of the best. (still audible on the previews on the site of this project)
palookaville is not 100% bad, long way from home, slash dot dash and most of all jing go lo ba are exceptionally good.
the BPA was a bummer IMO, not a single track that could hold my interest..
on a recent mix album by fatboy slim (dance b*tch) you can hear he still drive the crowds crazy. he still got it, but not this time sadly...
Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:31 PM
I appreciate Palookaville. The more I listen to it, the more i like it. There are a few songs that are hard to get my head around, but am I not then just repeating what everyone else has already said? Its just like how critics always compare all the later chemical brothers albums to DYOH. They're different, not attempting to be another slice of big beat. But thats better isn't it? Sure we all love big beat, but songs like Sunshine Underground are spawned from an evolution of sound. Fatboy Slim didn't try to create another "youve come a long way baby". (Well at least I dont think so). But I am just repeating the same old story that many seem to just ignore.
Damn, Norman should make a country album just to fuck with everyone.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 5:43 PM
just take a listen to his Late Night Tales mix cd and i think that that gives a true taste as to what Fatboy Slim is- his influences. Everything Norman Cook does under what ever alias is still always Norman Cook. Doesn't matter what name he puts on it.
On a side note, i've always wanted big beat to come back but now i've heard more people speaking about it (outside of this forum), i can't help thinking that i don't.
If it does come back then really all we're really hoping for is the same of what was already there and nothing new. I think that if Fatboy Slim and the Chems did make another almost identical Big Beat LP then it will still not be as liked or revered as there earlier stuff. That's the way it goes.
I do still really want big beat and acid house to come baack bigger and bolder, and so am glad that Bentley Rhythm Ace are touring again, get in!!
Posted 25 March 2010 - 12:30 AM
bently's gona sort us out!!! Well if anybody brings out a bigbeat album im buying it! Hear more and more people on other forums whispering of a bigbeat comeback.On the thread topic, this new direction in my own humble opinion can be summed up in two words: Pure Bolox. Fatboy Think his other recent act the brighton port authority would be a better name to market it on. now im off to listen to the SebastiAn remix of killing in the name of. tune!