i see that most of the people that have applied are anti drugs and i respect that. I can listen to the chems and just get a buzz form the music no problem, it just makes it ten times better.

Ok tomtom, I think we got it. :D

all i can say is that im far, far from being anti-drugs and whether i take drugs or not is nobody's business but mine but lets just put it this way,



people that take drugs wouldnt take them and listen to music if they didnt make music better, people arent stupid, they arent going to take something that makes them have a worse night, and pay for the privalege!!

[quote name="whirlygirl"]If the Chemical Brothers have done drugs, do drugs now, get drunk every weekend, go on 4 day benders, or are completely sober, whatever - it's not our business, and imo we have no right speaking for them in this regard.quote]



I agree with you it has nothing to do with anyone except them. I hope I havnt touched a nerve bring up an association with chems music and drugs, but what i meant was there music doesnt need drugs to enhance it and im sure they realise that there music tripps people on its own. I don't care about there personal life, aslong as they are happy and still making music.

Chrisman Escribi�:

Hehe me too Jeanie. Anyway it's clearly not of our business. ;) But I guess since they have children and all now (at least one of them has a child, can't remember :-//), things are different...

who are you talking about? After saying that the chems personal life has nothing to do with us, i did wonder if the chems have anything children?

i think tom has :o but i'm not sure. We don't really know a lot about our hero's !!! lets find some information ;)

ACIDCHILDREN Escribi�:

who are you talking about? After saying that the chems personal life has nothing to do with us, i did wonder if the chems have anything children?

Yep, heard them on radio when they were promoting their Singles: 93-03. It think it's Tom... Anyway one of them was asked if his daughter/son liked his music. Apparently no, too noisy for her/him. X-D



I also read an itw where Tom or Ed was asked if having a daughter has changed his priorities... But nop, according to him it hasn't changed and wouldn't change, The Chems is still the priority.

And about bringing her daughter to a show, he aswered "She'd just be vibrating on the floor, man. It wouldn't work out.". Damn true. :D

ACIDCHILDREN, no worries on my end, nobody's really touched my nerves. :)



I quite sure the Brothers don't really like to associate their music with taking drugs - at least that's how I've perceived it. Whenever the subject is broached in an interview, it's sort of sidelined, they don't talk about it much. And as Jeanie brought up, we really don't know that much about our musical heroes. They seem like very private people who just go about their lives without the public eye scrutinizing their every move. And I like it that way, even though knowing bits and pieces here and there helps us to understand that they are as human as the rest of us, gives people something to relate to. (btw, Jeanie it's Tom that has a young daughter - don't know for certain if he has more kids)



I believe that certain drugs can enhance the music, as they can be used to enhance any situation or experience. And I think it's natural, given the nature of the Chemical Brothers' music and the different crowds they've attracted over the years, that people like tomtom are more inclined to feel open with discussing what gets them high and the overall effect of the experience. Just as much as people who remain sober and let the music trip them out are as inclined to discuss their overall experience.

ACIDCHILDREN Escribi�:

. However i dnt think they make there music with the intetion of people to take drugs whilst listening to it because its to good and you don't need to.

sure they have......





Just because it is good without them, doesn't mean that it wasn't made with that thought process to begin with. I mean, with that logic, you are basicaly saying that all songs that are made for drugs are not very good. No way that's true...no way.



What is one of the Chemical Brother's favorite songs of all time if not the favorite song of all time? Tomorrow Never knows. Besides being a really great tune, what is historicaly special about the Beatles song? The song was written to be heard while on acid and some concider it to be the first song ever made for lsd.



http://www.iamthebea...rticle1270.html

Written by Lennon, this was his attempt to give a sign of things to come, while capturing the meaning of an LSD experience in words and sounds. It is probably the strangest and most experimental track to appear on a Beatles' recording at the time. It was recorded on April 6, 7 and 22, 1966, and the first song recorded for Revolver.

http://www.songfacts...il.lasso?id=114

John Lennon: "My first psychedelic song."

This was inspired by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert's book The Psychedelic Experience, which Lennon would read while tripping on LSD.

Lennon recorded himself reading from the Tibetan Book of the Dead, played it back while tripping on LSD, and wrote the song.

Each Beatle created strange sounds which were mixed in throughout the recording, often backward and in different speeds. McCartney had the idea for using tape loops to create effects.

This was the first track recorded for the album yet the last on record.

This used 16 tape loops. Several people remember standing around the room holding pencils for the tape to loop around and back into the recording machine as the various sound effects and instrumentation were faded in and out.

The vocals were forced through a Leslie (revolving) speaker. Lennon desired the effect that the listener could hear the words but not hear him, like a group of Tibetan monks chanting on a mountain top. (thanks, Mike - The Darkside of the Moon, for above 3)

http://www.abouttheb...ever_knows.html

The first track recorded for Revolver was John's "Tomorrow Never Knows", which was heavily influenced by acid and Paul's curiosity in electronic sound tracks and experimentation on his mixing machine at home. The master relies heavily on huge tape loops (16 in all) - several people remember standing around the room holding pencils for the tape to loop around and back into the recording machine as the various sound effects and instrumentation were faded in and out. Many of the words and phrases were either directly lifted or influnced by Timothy Leary's "The Psychedelic Experience" and "The Book Of The Dead". The vocals were forced through a Leslie speaker, as John desired the effect that the listener could hear the words but not hear him, like a group of Tibetian monks chanting on a mountain top.

ps- Tomorrow Never Knows is a damn good song while you are sober, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't made for drugs. To [/quote]

I loved music all my life....loved it. It has always been very important to me and I used to(still do) get the natural high that some of you speak of, but drugs changed music for me forever. The first time I heard Exit Plant Dust I was on some pretty strong acid. The music came to life right in front of me. The sounds became colors and the vibrations became shapes. I was changed forever. Listening to music while on lsd taught my brain to hear music in a way that it never did before. I heard sound color before, but it wasn't as vibrant and I wasn't as aware. I won't even go into what E taought me. hehe



ps - I no longer listen to music while on acid. I just know that I have learned what I needed to learn and I am greatful for what it taught me. I completed my experiment.

you passed the acid test. Amen.

Thesouphead Escribi�:

Just because it is good without them, doesn't mean that it wasn't made with that thought process to begin with. I mean, with that logic, you are basicaly saying that all songs that are made for drugs are not very good. No way that's true...no way.

Im not saying that. What i think and im saying is the chems didnt sit in the studio and say to themselves there gonna make a song thats aimed for taking drugs to. Im also saying why bother taking drugs if its good enough without them!

Thesouphead Escribi�:

What is one of the Chemical Brother's favorite songs of all time if not the favorite song of all time? Tomorrow Never knows. Besides being a really great tune, what is historicaly special about the Beatles song? The song was written to be heard while on acid and some concider it to be the first song ever made for lsd.

This is a quality tune and without drugs it would be very different. Weather the Beatles wrote it for people to take drugs to i do not know.

whirly, this was about us, not about the chem bros. ;)

Thesouphead Escribi�:

I loved music all my life....loved it. It has always been very important to me and I used to(still do) get the natural high that some of you speak of, but drugs changed music for me forever. The first time I heard Exit Plant Dust I was on some pretty strong acid. The music came to life right in front of me. The sounds became colors and the vibrations became shapes. I was changed forever. Listening to music while on lsd taught my brain to hear music in a way that it never did before. I heard sound color before, but it wasn't as vibrant and I wasn't as aware. I won't even go into what E taought me. hehe



ps - I no longer listen to music while on acid. I just know that I have learned what I needed to learn and I am greatful for what it taught me. I completed my experiment.

Like Lisa Simpson said after drinking the water at Duff Gardens, "I can SEE the music!!!" ;)



But in all seriousness. I agree with what you are saying. Once that door of perception is open, you can never go back through it to where you were before.

ACIDCHILDREN Escribi�:

Im not saying that. What i think and im saying is the chems didnt sit in the studio and say to themselves there gonna make a song thats aimed for taking drugs to. Im also saying why bother taking drugs if its good enough without them!



This is a quality tune and without drugs it would be very different. Weather the Beatles wrote it for people to take drugs to i do not know.

if you have not heard good music on good drugs, then you wouldn't understand. After going out and taking E at many a rave, you become very aware that a great deal of electronic music is made specifically with E in mind. You just know. The drugs help the music to evolve. What does Spiritualized say?.....something like, "we make music to listen to while on drugs so we can make more music." something like that. Whily probably knows what I am talking about.



I am telling you...the Beatles did write TNK for people who were going to be on drugs.

Jeanie Escribi�:

you passed the acid test. Amen.

You know I almost lost my mind.....I can't explain the things I 've seen.

Skylined Escribi�:

whirly, this was about us, not about the chem bros. ;)

You have a point there. But when we start to associate the Chems music with drugs, to a degree we are associating the Chems themselves with drugs.



It was more to make a point, not really pointing fingers at anyone in particular.

The Chems associate themselves with drugs all the time.





Chemical Brothers

Acid Children

The Test

Lost K Hole

Under the Influence





tons of refrences in their song titles and lyrics....





also in there mixes....how many times have you heard the vocals "accciiiiiiddd" in a chemical mix set? How about "ecccssstacaay" ?

Thesouphead Escribi�:

After going out and taking E at many a rave, you become very aware that a great deal of electronic music is made specifically with E in mind. You just know. The drugs help the music to evolve.

Agreed. Without trying to sound like I'm encouraging people to get loaded, these particular music experiences that involved getting high opened up that door where you hear things differently, realizing that perhaps some things are meant to be a heard a certain way. And that's why, whether you see it as a positive or negative, electronic music is often tied with ecstasy use. "Knowing" is something more than just hearing, it's something you feel. But I believe that explaining this can be difficult because that knowingness is something that must first be heard to be believed. After that, the song doesn't remain the same. I hope you know what I'm saying, I haven't had all my caffeine this morning so my brains still mush!

Thesouphead Escribi�:

What does Spiritualized say?.....something like, "we make music to listen to while on drugs so we can make more music." something like that. Whily probably knows what I am talking about.

Ah yes, "Taking drugs to make music to take drugs to."

Thesouphead Escribi�:

The Chems associate themselves with drugs all the time.





Chemical Brothers

Acid Children

The Test

Lost K Hole

Under the Influence





tons of refrences in their song titles and lyrics....





also in there mixes....how many times have you heard the vocals "accciiiiiiddd" in a chemical mix set? How about "ecccssstacaay" ?

I'm not denying that - but when it comes to drug talk, I don't like to put words into their mouths because it's such a touchy subject... Like they've said, everything they need to say is said in their music.



Even the near subliminal voices you hear (for instance Lost In The K-Hole) is very akin to hearing voices while tripping.



Let's just put it this way. The Chems know what they're doing, and theyh're damn good at it! ;)

i dont fucking care if they take or not drugs the music excellent and that is what it matters, however i dont need drugs to feel the music.