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#1 whirly

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 7:17 AM

Since a few of us have already been graced with the opportunity of a live gig, and since some of us have heard the Glasto bits and Munich set - I thought maybe this would be a good place to discuss favorite (and least favorite) parts of the gigs so far.


My favorites having heard the Glasto songs and Munich:


*We Are The Night. My goodness, I'm going to freak out when I see this live. I love the long intro, the build, the twinkly sounds, and how they roll up into this incredible pulsing stormer.


*Das Spiegal. As I said in the Fresh discussions thread, I also love the intro, the build of layers, the melodica. I also like that the giggle and moan sounds were kept in. It's joy personified in sound.


*Chemical Beats. This song goes off, simply - it's fuckin' great, fuckin' excellent acid house hahaha!


Least favorite parts - the transition from Saturate to Believe. I hate to be critical, especially since I wasn't "there" but it seemed to be the vocals from Believe might have been brought in too soon? Or is it just me?


I'll have to revisit this once I've listened to the Munich set from start to finish again...




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 7:46 AM

whirly whirly whirly!! (just kidding!)

i LOVE the Saturate to Believe transition! the first time i played that munich set i was like WTF??!! the mix sounds so weird and dirty there with the vocals coming in and sounding so out of place when both tracks are playing together, but then (I think around 1hr 1min) there's one crazy part with Saturate coming back in - it's just gorgeous! On repeated listens I find that mixing genius! It sounds so disjointed with both tracks playing together at one time, but I like it a lot now.

I don't think I liked WATN live - they should have kept it in the beginning - I still feel it's a great opener!

I'm not a fan of Das Spiegel - but hell yeah - the intro rocks! those classic drums, till the actual song comes in. :p still reminds me of happy bunnies jumping on stage or in a field - i have a love hate relationship with this song.

the don't fight control part rocks!

i still have to soak this set - i've heard it like 3 times - waiting for better quality bootlegs to surface of future gigs - hope we're lucky to get a soundboard recording or one like the london 2005 set.


i still feel they should change the set opener - galvanise really reeks (imo) of trying too desperately to get the crowd going straight away since it was so big - i understand why it's there i just don't like it much there.

yep - chemical beats is ace as ever! i hope they use more old school tunes for the transitions. i'm sure the set will keep getting finetuned - they've just started.


edit : oh yeah : I LURVV that looong fucking around with people's heads the way they bring in Surface To Air - that song's pure gold!



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#3 BoyOfTheEnders

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 9:14 AM

Ok...

I have yet to see this years show, but I've seen about 50 videos...I'd say my favorite part so far, is looking like when they play modern midnight conversation...and burst generator... I wanna see those 2 songs live the most...


The worst part... I cant think of one, but the old galvanize stuff looks a bit old school, so I'll say that??




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 10:45 AM

Oh man...I have to agree with JacksRevenge...It gave me goose bumps the first time I heard the transition from Saturate to Believe...When the vocals kick in, that's pure heaven...haha...And then that breakbeat...Wow...I'm gonna go crazy when I hear that live haha....Believe to WATN was also awesome....S2A, TGP and TSU were also ace...

Truthfully, I really enjoyed their set...But if I had to choose a least favorite transition was Do it Again/Get yourself high to HBHG...IMO, it wasn't as energetic as last tour's, when they opened with it...Besides, it seemed a lil' flat for me....Maybe I had high expectations for that song, since it always seem to electrify ppl on their concerts...Anyone thought the same thing?




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 1:04 PM

hearing it now.


like it uptil now mostly - i just miss the last tour's CRAZY transitions between songs - these are still very raw and basic.

Also the set order is weird and as disjointed as the album - i've just reached all rights reversed.


i love the do it again just get u'rself high mixing, the rest of the song failed to deliver as much sa it can, in this mix/ recording. i like the get u'rself high do it again idea a lot. ;)

out of control after all rights reversed is pretty neat.


i have an interesting duh question? will star guitar or hey boy hey girl ever leave a chemical brothers set? :D

don't get me wrong, i don't want them to, just on a thought? whirly apologies if i'm derailing u'r thread - we're still talking sets and our fav parts/ things in them. lovely thread!


edit : whoa! 51.25 - that fuckin keyboard - go ed n tom go!! i can't believe what that keyboard melody did to me just now. will just kick back and wait for Saturate now. Later.



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Posted 23 July 2007 - 1:43 PM

1 hr 1 min.

then 1 hr 1min 50 seconds. that's where i'd cum if i was in there. that insane believe drum on the saturate melody - two words : mad scientists. we want more crazy transitions - mindswirling brothers for back - whose signing the petition?



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Posted 23 July 2007 - 3:16 PM

best by far for me is ebwsatur8. fuck that section just perfectly captures everything i love about the chems live!


plus special mention to those drums before believe with the denmark sample?! hahah gold.




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 3:22 PM

Fav:


***************************We Are The Night : PANTS WERE CREAMED.****

***********Das Spiegel : Tom + Melodica = FUCKING WIN!!!

****************Believe : That build up is fucking crazy not to mention the new break start.

****Saturate: Love the visuals and the epic break.

****Dont Fight Control : Rama lama lama fa fa fa Gonna get high til the day I die


Least Fav:


---------------------Galvanize as opener (COME WITH US FTW!!).

---------------------Saturate>Believe transition.

--Burst Generator position on the set after Galvanize is very anti climatic.

-----No Music:Response!!!!

--They need to rework Star Guitar.

-----SET LENGHT!!!




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 5:33 PM

The drum break they've put on Believe is seriously insane. I can't believe what this'd do live.

Also do they realise they could kill people with that whole acid part for eons before they take off into das spiegel? i'd like to know what was happening to the fans under the influence at that time - it's too insane.


So noone likes the Saturate-Believe transition with that huge drum?



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Posted 23 July 2007 - 6:12 PM

Don't think they mean that drum part rather than the vocals of believe which really don't match to saturate's harmony. It's sounds pitched and non-working imo too. They really need to fix that. They could record that vocal part with Kele because I know what they wanted to sound it like... if only the harmonies would match together! But I don't blame them by no means because doing a good transition between old and new material which has no common base must be kind of a hard process. It's just a suggestion.

And I do think DIA sounds very very weak live. It's got no serious energy (minimal?!?) and takes off the power imo. I also think Burst Generator comes in too quick (but yet fantastic!!!).


My absolute favs are Saturate and it's breakbeat part at the end which is why I love the brothers that much. It's pure energy floating upstream ;-). It makes me wanna dance my ass off, yelling "Guys, you're my personal gsus!!!!" Along with it's perfect screenplay it's outstanding and the visualization of taking drugs (must be like that), isn't it?.

We Are The Night is another mindblowing live track. As whirly already said, the intro is so wonderful "ooooohhhhheyyyyohhhhhh". love that singing.

I don't need to talk about Surface To Air because you all know it fucking rocks all the time you hear it. And live it's truely an experience!!!


On the other hand I'm not so sure about Fight It Feel it because it expands Out Of Control a little too long.


Well, the intro is fricking great, the first selfmade tour intro and it rocks. And no one can change my mind on that :lol: . Against other's opinion of galvanize being the opener is a bad thing, I pretty like it. It was a logical thing keeping it in the sets as a "make them all go crazy" tune. I mean, doesn't sound the beginning a little like CWU? Dark and auspicious. That part could be a bit longer but it's all good and hypes the masses at the beginning which is legitimate. Imagine an comedian: he needs just one moment to own the audience and I think this one would do that pretty nice (at least it worked for the Munich audience as I can hear :-) ).



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Posted 23 July 2007 - 6:20 PM

pre-surrender tour the intro was synth twiddling no?



He put on a turn-down collar, a black bow, and wore his Sunday tail-coat. As such, he looked spruce, and what his clothes would not do, his instinct for making the most of his good looks would.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 6:57 PM

I leave home happy when they end with the private psychedelic reel... :)




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 7:01 PM

Fav part of new show : Saturate/ Believe and the Fight/ Out of Control bit is amazing.


Least fav part: The intro/Galvanise. How can the Chems go from the greatest opener ever with Tomorrow Never Knows into the complete non event which is No Path to Follow. And joining Galvanise (a track which has never really worked brilliantly live) halfway way through just doesn't set the scene at all. I'll joint the calls for bringing back Come With US, it was amazing live.




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 7:04 PM

You know what I'm thinking? Galvanize will work as an intro here in the States. It's been on so many Budweiser commercials that it's what people know, and will bring people together.


However, what I experienced in Amsterdam had to be the least exciting opening for the Chemical Brothers I've ever seen. I would absolutely love to hear Come with Us rise up like a phoenix from the ashes... God it gives me chills to remember that set.


The pacing of this set is very different--I wish they would unmash some of the mashed songs, and I'm still unconvinced at how well the Out of Control/Don't Fight it Feel it works. And I guess being teased with the vocal samples from Get Yourself High and Acid Children made me frustrated--I wanted to hear the full songs brought in, especially Acid Children.


The moment HBHG is brought in is brilliant. I loved that moment, and the energy is amazing. Do it Again live is awesome! It's so fucking fierce and it's not so much Do it Again as it is YOU WILL DO IT AGAIN, NOW! And I said, yes! YES!


And despite my wishes to hear The Sunshine Underground live again, it was an anticlimax for me because it didn't quite peak the way it used to. They used to have this really intense bit infused into the peak that fried your brain in the best possible way, and brought the crowd to such an amazing place. And oddly, it felt, the bass was too overpowering and drowned out the rest of the song.


But my favorite new moment is definitely with We Are the Night. I love the difference between what they do in the studio vs. what they do live, and the way they transformed that track and how they bring in the vocal sample like an angel soaring on wings, the bassline tickling your spine, is absolutely genius. The Brothers worked it out.




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 8:06 PM

When I saw them at Rock Ness it was a festival set which is always a bit abridged - there was no encore so I'd rather pass judgment after seeing a full concert set. I'm still a bit surprised Star Guitar is still there, it was/is the only part of the recent sets where I've started getting itchy feet. Though at Rock Ness they added a few cool squeltchy analogue sounds on top of it which freshened it up a bit (though I noticed at Glastonbury they dropped them for some reason) they also shortened the track a bit which helped matters too.


As far as Galvanize is concerned I guess its the one track they have to play, there's a whole new generation of concert goers for which it is thee recognisable Chems song, even above HBHG. But I've never thought it works live, the dropped vocal section just makes it sound like half the tracks missing, it had a good intro before this tour but that was about it. Block Rockin Beats was a far far better live track but its been sacrificed for newer material which is understandable.


Tracks like Get Yourself High and Acid children I don't really miss to be honest. They've got far stronger tracks than Get Yourself high to choose from and Acid Children was great the first time I heard it at T in the Park 2004 but I didn't miss it at Rock Ness. The Don't Fight it Feel it/Out of Control bit I'll totally defend though, I thought that was amazing live and really really intense visually.




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 8:41 PM

My wife musta been on drugs.


favorite part: When it starts


Least Favorite Part: Trying to get home afterwards




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 8:54 PM

PRO: Chemical Beats, Hey Boy Hey Girl, The Sunshine Underground


CON: No Path To Follow (too damn long!), Saturate/EBW 8, A Modern Midnight Conversation




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 9:51 PM

Favs: the build up of Get Yourself High into HBHG

the LOUDNESS of Believe when it gets going

Sunshine U.Just to hear it again.

Negatives: Galvanise as the opener.And NPTF as intro to it.

Burst Generator brilliant track as it is just didnt seem to fit so early in the set.Too pedestrian first 10 minutes all in all.In Amsterdam anyway.




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 10:20 PM

Yeah, the placement of Burst Generator was a little odd. . .


Unfortunately, No Path To Follow + Galvanize = Not much of a build-up to the absolutely immense set.




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Posted 23 July 2007 - 10:23 PM

Sounds like my views are much the same as others here. First time I saw them was 2004, so never experienced CWU as the opener, but can imagine it would get it going, in the same way that Tomorrow Never Knows into Hey Boy did. No Path to Follow didn't generate the same frisson. The droning before Galvanise and the first crashes worked, but it just seemed to lose any momentum going into Burst Generator (which would work a bit later in the set). The first wild moment was Do It Again/Get Yourself High into Hey Boy - built up for a few moments, recognise the loop, and bang! Place just goes nuts, but again it lost a bit of momentum and seemed a bit disjointed going to All Rights Reversed. Out of Control/Don't Fight It/Star Guitar works as a great segment, with the visuals as well. Just keeps it all going.


Second half of the set was fantastic - Saturate visuals are fantastic, and that straight into Believe was wild, and just continued with WATN and EBW7/Chemical Beats. Das Spiegel works well live, and Sunshine is, well, Sunshine. Leaves you wanting more, looking back over your shoulder just in case...


The visuals are fantastic though (certainly were at the Roundhouse). I've got tix to see them in Glasgow in December, and hoping that the sound is as powerful as it was in a smaller venue.


Right, that's me had my tuppenceworth!




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